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skotup
Joined: Sat Sep 05, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 20 Location: perth
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steak_knife wrote: skotup wrote: ive disconnected the battery while its running before too, we know cars run without a battery but what we want to know is will it START without a battery? Clutch start. Starter's don't run on plankton..
I think the mythbuster question is, if you do this clutch start, will the residual magnetism in the alternator coil be enough to produce a voltage for the ignition coil?
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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it would be a damn big hill to get it to spin the thing fast enough to excite
my mini with a generator can do it though, but its the same fault with teh reg that flattens the battery that lets me get away with it 
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skotup
Joined: Sat Sep 05, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 20 Location: perth
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wouldnt the residual magnetism in the rotor generate a small voltage in the stator, which will feed back into the rotor to generate a greater magnetic field and greater and greater and greater voltage out of the stator? So the smallest amount of residual magnetic flux/webbers will be enough to get the alternator producing a voltage. This is the same principal as pull start motors isnt it?
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 8:26 am |
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skotup wrote: wouldnt the residual magnetism in the rotor generate a small voltage in the stator, which will feed back into the rotor to generate a greater magnetic field and greater and greater and greater voltage out of the stator? So the smallest amount of residual magnetic flux/webbers will be enough to get the alternator producing a voltage. This is the same principal as pull start motors isnt it?
you think too much, go get an alternator and stick a meter on the back and spin that thing as hard as you can and see what happens
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skotup
Joined: Sat Sep 05, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 20 Location: perth
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royce wrote: you think too much, go get an alternator and stick a meter on the back and spin that thing as hard as you can and see what happens
cant be assed, easier to make a post about it. 
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fordem
Joined: Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 2656 Location: Georgetown, Guyana
Vehicle: APK416, A6G415, A6N415
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skotup wrote: wouldnt the residual magnetism in the rotor generate a small voltage in the stator, which will feed back into the rotor to generate a greater magnetic field and greater and greater and greater voltage out of the stator? So the smallest amount of residual magnetic flux/webbers will be enough to get the alternator producing a voltage. This is the same principal as pull start motors isnt it?
No - pull start motors use magneto ignitions - with permanent magnets.
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TZAR

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Joined: Tue Aug 01, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 3461 Location: licking some windows
Vehicle: LJ20 LJ50
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what about my starter generator on my LJ20????
Do I need a battey??? and if I put the terminals on wrong can I make it run in the oppsote direction since its a two stroke?????
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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TZAR wrote: what about my starter generator on my LJ20????
Do I need a battey??? and if I put the terminals on wrong can I make it run in the oppsote direction since its a two stroke?????
yes. 
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