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Che

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Joined: Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2401 Location: Perth
Vehicle: LPG 1.6 Sierra
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 Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:42 pm |
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I just remembered I gotta install an immobiliser to switch to WA rego. Best do this first before I go playing motor swapsies while still on QLD plates.
Can anyone show me their setups? Mine is a 90 Sierra, never had an immobiliser before, dunno what the options are 
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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Northside Auto Elecs - Cnr Cockman Rd and Canham Way in Greenwood... talk to John (owner) tell him i sent you.
i've recently swapped to a transponder style thing - basically a dongle on my keyring that kills the immob when it gets near it. Theres also a switch in the door that alerts the immob that im about to come near and activates the antenna.
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want33s

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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8134 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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alien wrote: Northside Auto Elecs - Cnr Cockman Rd and Canham Way in Greenwood... talk to John (owner) tell him i sent you.
i've recently swapped to a transponder style thing - basically a dongle on my keyring that kills the immob when it gets near it. Theres also a switch in the door that alerts the immob that im about to come near and activates the antenna.
How do you start your car if you drop the keys(with dongle attached) in some water?
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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its a passive waterproof device, I had one on my sierra and left one in some water for a while to make sure they were ok
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cruiserman
Joined: Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 37 Location: Perth
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want33s wrote: How do you start your car if you drop the keys(with dongle attached) in some water?
I have dropped mine into water a fair few times with no problems. The are quite well sealed and are definatley worth the of couple extra $$
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Benz
Joined: Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1006 Location: Cervantes WA
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i have washed my keys and the dongle still works...
you get a few with that kit too....
and you can override the system by turning the ignition on and off after the correct number of flashes on the little L.E.D.
biggest bonus is your car can not be stolen unless they somehow get hold of your keys...
the type alien described is the best. you don't even have to do anything! no batteries to worry about too.
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sstteevvee
Joined: Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:54 pm Posts: 134 Location: Perth
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Not trying to pinch ur thread but does anyone know how much it costs to have something like this installed? Thinkn bout puttin one in the 83 1l I have.
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Che

az supporter
Joined: Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2401 Location: Perth
Vehicle: LPG 1.6 Sierra
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I'll find out the cost when I peel myself off the couch in the next 1/2 hour - Ntside Auto Elec is just around the corner from me.
So what part is it actually immobilising?
Is a kill switch the same as an immobiliser?
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Ben_Sierra

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Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4472 Location: Perth
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sstteevvee wrote: Not trying to pinch ur thread but does anyone know how much it costs to have something like this installed? Thinkn bout puttin one in the 83 1l I have. Why? The first thing I did when I bought my Sierra is remove the bloody annoying thing... che_guitarra wrote: I'll find out the cost when I peel myself off the couch in the next 1/2 hour - Ntside Auto Elec is just around the corner from me.
So what part is it actually immobilising?
Is a kill switch the same as an immobiliser?
It needs to have some sort of key, or remote, or a coded car key so that it can't be operated without it. I believe they need to immobilise both ignition and the starter...
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Che

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Joined: Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2401 Location: Perth
Vehicle: LPG 1.6 Sierra
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 Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:01 am |
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OK, they start at $170 installed for a basic immobiliser - the transponder types are $280 installed.
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trity
Joined: Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:49 pm Posts: 250 Location: Perth, WA
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i just got a transponder type installed by identimark in canning vale WA for $220 they even came out and installed it at my house for free
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sstteevvee
Joined: Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:54 pm Posts: 134 Location: Perth
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Ben_Sierra wrote: sstteevvee wrote: Not trying to pinch ur thread but does anyone know how much it costs to have something like this installed? Thinkn bout puttin one in the 83 1l I have. Why? The first thing I did when I bought my Sierra is remove the bloody annoying thing...che_guitarra wrote: I'll find out the cost when I peel myself off the couch in the next 1/2 hour - Ntside Auto Elec is just around the corner from me.
So what part is it actually immobilising?
Is a kill switch the same as an immobiliser? It needs to have some sort of key, or remote, or a coded car key so that it can't be operated without it. I believe they need to immobilise both ignition and the starter...
Probably because i can start it with almost any key that will fit in the ignition, and it has been used as my daily on many occasions. I'm up for the whole find 30 thing but would prefer to find my zook where i left it.
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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$280 installed??? weird... im sure i payed far less (unless i got 'mates rates' and you didnt)... either that or mine was a pain in the ass and now they know what to charge lol
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gregdixon

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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1017 Location: Perth
Vehicle: 2004 SQ625 GV
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You can buy them and fit it yourself. I have assisted fitted a full imobaliser and alarm to an old XD falcon. The packs now days are pretty straight forward and come with a complete wiring diagram. Check Supercheap or repco.
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trity
Joined: Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:49 pm Posts: 250 Location: Perth, WA
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i reckon for $220 installed its pretty cheap for the transponder type - took the guy only about 30mins to install it too
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Teracis
Joined: Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:03 pm Posts: 2261 Location: Gold Coast
Vehicle: Daisy
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 Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:31 am |
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Do they make any where you need to punch in a passcode on a keypad or something, so it doesn't matter if you lose a the transponders or something?
I mean yeah you could brute force it, but with 9 numbers and a couple of minute lockout after say 3 failed attempts it would take a bloody long time!
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Che

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Joined: Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2401 Location: Perth
Vehicle: LPG 1.6 Sierra
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I can't find the install parts on Ebay for a transponder immobiliser... not too sure what to look up
if an installer can do it in 1/2 an hour, gimmie the parts and 1/2 a day and surely i'll have it sorted?
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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http://www.dynamco.com.au/
do you want an alram or just an immobiliser?
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Taylor74
Joined: Fri Dec 24, 2010 10:26 am Posts: 198 Location: Perth WA
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You can buy the Dynamco/Cyclops from Coventrys stores in WA, Thats the best brand. The relays inside the unit are rated for 40amps where some of the cheaper brands can only carry 7 or 15 amps.
Cheap is not always best with immobilisers. Used to be several years ago when they brought it in they had to be fitted by a registerd installer. (police clearance and stuff) It was a stupid idea for that didnt make anyone install them properly.
Just make sure the unit goes up high so its free from water and no problems will be had.
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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takes about 30 secs to bypass a standard one and its a matter of when they stuff up offroad rather than if
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Che

az supporter
Joined: Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2401 Location: Perth
Vehicle: LPG 1.6 Sierra
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 Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:01 am |
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atari4x4 wrote: http://www.dynamco.com.au/
do you want an alram or just an immobiliser?
Whatever I legally need. Nothing overboard.
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vl2dy4

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Joined: Wed Feb 16, 2011 8:40 am Posts: 424 Location: Australind WA
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 Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:06 am |
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che_guitarra wrote: atari4x4 wrote: http://www.dynamco.com.au/
do you want an alram or just an immobiliser? Whatever I legally need. Nothing overboard.
Mate i bought one from rapid electronics, comes as a full kit takes about 2-3hrs to install, very easy cost me $65 and it is approved for WA Definetly good value.
CLICKY HERE http://www.rapidelectronics.com.au/products/Rapid-Electronics-400s-Car-Alarm-Latest-Top-Of-The-Line.html
this one is both alarm and immobilizer, you can also hook up central locking later if you want that.
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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legally its just an immob you need... try searching "proximity" immob rather than transponder...
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:09 am |
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che_guitarra wrote: I can't find the install parts on Ebay for a transponder immobiliser... not too sure what to look up  if an installer can do it in 1/2 an hour, gimmie the parts and 1/2 a day and surely i'll have it sorted?
A 30 minute install is 30 seconds to bypass
If you truly want and install that we be near impossible to override and can solder and work a test light, let me know when you are ready to install it and ill give you some tips
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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^^^ listen to Royce, he know stuff about electric strings & things that spark.
i've seen how easily a poorly installed immobiliser can be bypassed, it's quicker than hot wiring a car as they've already identified the wires you need out of the loom.
the alarm in my zook took a day & a bit, but that included beers, a couple of bbq's & a heap of other electrical stuff while the car was stripped of the interior.
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Che

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Joined: Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2401 Location: Perth
Vehicle: LPG 1.6 Sierra
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 Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:35 am |
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Cheers Royce. I'll try sort the parts to install it all on my day off next thursday
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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 Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:36 am |
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yeah my immob is buried behind the dash in a hard to get at spot, and all my wiring is super taped up so its harder to find. I know my immob install took over an hour cos i was there when they did it. I dont remember exactly what was done either but i know they had it wired to multiple things to increase its effectiveness.
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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^^^ 30 secs to bypass gaurenteed
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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 Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:06 am |
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haha maybe =) what makes it so easy to bypass though?
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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knowing what you're doing is the first bit, then it's just a matter of following the bouncing ball.
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