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Shanej
Joined: Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:36 am Posts: 170 Location: Home
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Are they all the same?????????
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PJ.zook

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Of course they are not the same, joining one and a bit engines together would be extremely unique as far as I'm concerned, especially due to the few options available to you in splitting 6 cylinders out of a ten cylinder motor.
Off the top of my head there would be one of the later Ford engines, some early aircraft radials, I'm sure there were a few exotics that ran ten cylinder motors. There is the five cylinder engines too, I think VW run em, not aware of others although I'm sure they are there.
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Shanej
Joined: Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:36 am Posts: 170 Location: Home
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 Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:51 pm |
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What i am asking is are the:
Vitara
LASER /BJ ASTINA 1.6 ENGINE
FORD FIESTA ENGINE 1.6L 2006 MODEL
1999 NISSAN N15 PULSAR 1.6 ENGINE
PEUGEOT 206 1.6 ENGINE 99 TO 05
Suzuki Grand Vitara Engine DOHC
VOLKSWAGEN GOLF ENGINE 1.6L 2001 MODEL
2007 CITROEN C4 1.6 HDI ENGINE
SUZUKI SWIFT SPORTS 2008 1.6L ENGINE
That is what I am asking
Are you able to use any of these for an engine swap....
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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 Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:56 pm |
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OMG are you for real?
you can use what ever engine you want, but good luck mating it to a gear box & then a transfer case.
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Shanej
Joined: Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:36 am Posts: 170 Location: Home
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atari4x4 wrote: OMG are you for real?
you can use what ever engine you want, but good luck mating it to a gear box & then a transfer case.
OMG that is what I am asking to all the Suzuki Gods...... That is all that I am asking OMG thankyou...OMG!!!!
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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do you really think that all manufactures would run the exact same engine design for every 1.6l 4 cylinder ever built?
you question needs more info....
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Shanej
Joined: Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:36 am Posts: 170 Location: Home
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 Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 1:04 pm |
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OMG I will say it in ENGLISH next time.. I am not sure what the go is with the different 1.6 engines that is why I asked... Sorry for offending your GOD like status of 1.6 motors... not everyone knows everything that is why it is a forum.. Again sorry for asking a question....
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atari4x4

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 Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 1:11 pm |
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right,
so you've got a list of 1.6l engines.... you can make any of them fit, with the right amount of time & money.
but good luck getting a gearbox for most of the listed if not all of those engines as they're mainly FWD engines apart from the G16, there is a reason why people bolt the G16B into sierra's.
i have to ask what is you reason for that selection of motors? non of them seem like they'd be that "easy" to fit or common?
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Shanej
Joined: Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:36 am Posts: 170 Location: Home
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 Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 1:15 pm |
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I wanted to know if you can use any for an engine change out. that's all. I will just go with the G16B efi when i can get one. Board on the net and just doing some research, so OMG thanks.....
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atari4x4

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OMG that's not a problem, I'm sorry... I just got home from work & cracked a beer, read that & nearly choked on it.
I could see the point of using one of the listed engines in a conversion if you already had it & could mate it to some sort of RWD gearbox (manual or auto) and again the suzuki ones probably could the best option followed by maybe the Mazda/Ford combo... the rest would be a nightmare.
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Shanej
Joined: Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:36 am Posts: 170 Location: Home
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thats all i needed to know thanks.. OMG...hahaha OMG....
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sideways

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Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:53 pm Posts: 5936 Location: Northcliffe, W.A.
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Shanej wrote: I wanted to know if you can use any for an engine change out. that's all. I will just go with the G16B efi when i can get one. Board on the net and just doing some research, so OMG thanks.....
Yes.
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sideways

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Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:53 pm Posts: 5936 Location: Northcliffe, W.A.
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Peugeot (and probably Citroen) HDi engines can be used with a Tata Techoline gearbox.
If you're going to go to the trouble of getting a Tata then you may as well just use the engine they've got, a rip off of the Pug 405 diesel. Much less mucking around but also a fair bit less power.
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SSSIERA
Joined: Tue Mar 22, 2011 1:26 pm Posts: 1770 Location: Perth's RUF
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Lockie666

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shakes
Joined: Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 4895 Location: Northcote
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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Bringz teh tech:
Vitara
LASER /BJ ASTINA 1.6 ENGINE - Mazda MX-5 auto is an AW-4 and can bolt up. They are hard to find though. It is therefore possible to build an AW-4 auto that bolts to a mazda B series motor and then bolts to your vitara transfer.
FORD FIESTA ENGINE 1.6L 2006 MODEL No.
1999 NISSAN N15 PULSAR 1.6 ENGINE Maybe using a Silvia/180SX gearbox (is it a SR series motor?) and then you could use a navara/patrol transfer.
PEUGEOT 206 1.6 ENGINE 99 TO 05 No.
Suzuki Grand Vitara Engine DOHC Will bolt to a 1.6 vitara gearbox.
VOLKSWAGEN GOLF ENGINE 1.6L 2001 MODEL No.
2007 CITROEN C4 1.6 HDI ENGINE No.
SUZUKI SWIFT SPORTS 2008 1.6L ENGINE If it's an M series motor it will bolt up to a jimny gearbox (or a jimny manual with a sierra back end.
For the motors I've said No. to, it might be possible to find a RWD gearbox, but you also have to sort a transfer. For the vitara based motors, you can use a vitara transfer, a kicker, or a divorce mounted transfer (sierra)
However, lots of RWD gearboxes have very long extension housings on them and that makes them hard to use with a divorce mounted transfer - the transfer has to move well back and can be hard , depending on wheelbase.
Oh, and as aside, you'll need to consider the position of the distributor. Typically for older FWD motors, the distributor points straight out the back of the head, which puts it in the cabin (with no heater) on a sierra, so potentially you'll want to swap to coil packs to eliminate that problem.
With any engine swap for a sierra (or vitara) in my opinion, the #1 consideration is the gearbox/transfer. There are lots of potential engines, but few with a really useful gearbox.
That's one of the reasons vitara motors are so good - a strong three or 4 speed auto and a well geared, short manual.
Steve
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shakes
Joined: Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 4895 Location: Northcote
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Gwagensteve wrote: 1999 NISSAN N15 PULSAR 1.6 ENGINE Maybe using a Silvia/180SX gearbox (is it a SR series motor?) and then you could use a navara/patrol transfer.
fwd CA16/18DE/T motors will put the dizzy through the firewall or the motor a long way forwards. Definately will bolt up to a rwd with no mounting issues, but a bit of a mess around to remove the dizzy. Not impossible, but the cheapness is often removed.
Edit... thats if it is the CA motor and not one of the other fwd engines they came specced with.
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stocker
Joined: Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:16 am Posts: 941 Location: Shidoni!
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Gwagensteve wrote: Bringz teh tech:
1999 NISSAN N15 PULSAR 1.6 ENGINE Maybe using a Silvia/180SX gearbox (is it a SR series motor?) and then you could use a navara/patrol transfer.
Steve
Noooooo Way, GA16 won't bolt up to an SR Box...
Not without alot of work 
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 5:31 am |
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That's why I said maybe. I'm not super familiar with nissan engine series but I do know that they have veru modular gearboxes.
Steve.
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