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scorpydude
Joined: Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:47 am Posts: 286 Location: South East Brisbane
Vehicle: 02 GV SQ625 + 84 Sierra SJ410
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 Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:35 am |
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I'm trying to figure out why my steering feels 'weird'.
The best way I can describe it is... when I turn right it feels normal but when I turn left it feels like the body of the car is rolling a lot more and getting on a huge angle for no reason.
I've replaced all the bushes on my front left and right springs which didn't fix the issue. (flexing feels firmer though)
I do have a noticeable oil leak from my front right knuckle which I have a new seal and bearing kit for (but not king pins) but haven't had a chance to chuck it in yet.
When I was replacing the bushes I noticed that my front right shock absorber when compressed didnt push back out at all, even slowly. I had to pull it back into size myself. It's an ironman shocky, only a few months old from a +50mm Ironman Suspension lift kit.
Can a shocky cause this kind of steering difference between left and right?
If so, would it be worth pulling each of the shockies tomorrow and if any of them are shagged replacing the pair with one of the following ?
Rear Commodore Wagon Shocks Gabriel 81340
Front Hiace Shocks Gabriel 81147
(Just out of curiosity - If I had any problems with my kingpins - what sort of adverse effects would it cause?)
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:43 am |
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lots of shocks dont spring back, be more worried if one feels easier to push in and out that the other
lots of bodyroll usually comes from the rear
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scorpydude
Joined: Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:47 am Posts: 286 Location: South East Brisbane
Vehicle: 02 GV SQ625 + 84 Sierra SJ410
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 Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:51 am |
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hrmmm... okay cheers royce... i'll try replacing the rear bushes as well and see how that goes.
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Scrawny

I live here!
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
Vehicle: Popemobile
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 Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:07 am |
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Stop getting so paranoid and just enjoy driving it! It won't ever drive like your GV 
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Bruce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4003 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:13 am |
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But Scrawn, it's got to drive fast, handle like it's on rails, don't need to change gears going up a hill while towing a trailer and sit easy at 100kph+ while on road but be really slow off road. Don't you know that Scrawn. 
_________________ [quote="royce"] I wouldnt mind insulating my rear
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Scrawny

I live here!
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
Vehicle: Popemobile
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 Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:14 am |
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Bruce wrote: But Scrawn, it's got to drive fast, handle like it's on rails, don't need to change gears going up a hill while towing a trailer and sit easy at 100kph+ while on road but be really slow off road. Don't you know that Scrawn. 
Oooooohhhh..... well in that case...
As you were
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ZookFan
Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:19 am Posts: 3978 Location: Brisbane,samford,QLD
Vehicle: 92 Sierra Tin Top, 3 X LJ 81's
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 Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:08 am |
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Bruce wrote: But Scrawn, it's got to drive fast, handle like it's on rails, don't need to change gears going up a hill while towing a trailer and sit easy at 100kph+ while on road but be really slow off road. Don't you know that Scrawn. 

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scorpydude
Joined: Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:47 am Posts: 286 Location: South East Brisbane
Vehicle: 02 GV SQ625 + 84 Sierra SJ410
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 Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:23 am |
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Scrawn wrote: Stop getting so paranoid and just enjoy driving it! It won't ever drive like your GV  Ever since I semi-layed the car on it's side and had all the weight of the vehicle on the front right wheel it's had some issues. I think we're both smart enough to know I'm not expecting the performance my GV gives me on the road to match that of my Sierra so I don't know why you would bring it up apart to patronise me - which you've done - congrats. In the last four weeks my Sierra has been over some decent tracks 6 times... how about yours ? Being able to keep enjoying driving it is exactly what I want to do. Not being able to take it far works directly against that though. Bruce wrote: But Scrawn, it's got to drive fast, handle like it's on rails, don't need to change gears going up a hill while towing a trailer and sit easy at 100kph+ while on road but be really slow off road. Don't you know that Scrawn. 
Not only a jab at my past efforts to confirm my gearing purchase was worthwhile but also a jab at my efforts to ensure my vehicle is safe to drive... well done... like shooting fish in a barrel...
My car can barely drive straight on a flat road and I'm asking too much of it? The moment yours gets a scratch it's back on the trailer and buffed and polished the next day.
Pot. kettle. Black.
The double standards is rife.
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steak_knife

az supporter
Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:26 am |
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scorpydude wrote:
My car can barely drive straight on a flat road
 You said it had body roll.......
_________________ I used to be indecisive,
now I'm not so sure.....
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mrw82

az supporter
Joined: Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 1350 Location: stuck in a hole. not off road, just deception bay.
Vehicle: snotbox, 84 LWB sierra 1 litre
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 Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:29 am |
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I came here to do some shit stirrin.... but I see bruce has taken care of it for me. thanks mate!
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mrw82

az supporter
Joined: Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 1350 Location: stuck in a hole. not off road, just deception bay.
Vehicle: snotbox, 84 LWB sierra 1 litre
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 Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:33 am |
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sounds like your sway bar is bent chris.
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Mattmorgo

az supporter
Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 464 Location: Southside Brisbane- the best side of the river
Vehicle: Shitbox
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 Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:38 am |
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mrw82 wrote: sounds like your sway bar is bent chris.
I thought those things were for stirring paint 
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 3:10 am |
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Scorpudude, how about doing 15 minutes of investigation?
A) Swap the shocks left to right and see if it changes anything
B) See if the LHF shock self extends - as Royce pointed out, not all shocks self extend.
C) jack each front wheel up and check for play
D jack both front wheels up and check the steering feels the same left to right.
Steve.
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BlueSuzy

az supporter
Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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 Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 4:05 am |
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Bent springs
Sagged springs
Shit shocks
Bent swaybar
Low tyre pressures
Fat arse in the drivers seat
_________________ BlueSuzy wrote: I'm over the G16b's.
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Scrawny

I live here!
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
Vehicle: Popemobile
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 Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:36 am |
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scorpydude wrote: Scrawn wrote: Stop getting so paranoid and just enjoy driving it! It won't ever drive like your GV  Ever since I semi-layed the car on it's side and had all the weight of the vehicle on the front right wheel it's had some issues. I think we're both smart enough to know I'm not expecting the performance my GV gives me on the road to match that of my Sierra so I don't know why you would bring it up apart to patronise me - which you've done - congrats. In the last four weeks my Sierra has been over some decent tracks 6 times... how about yours ? Being able to keep enjoying driving it is exactly what I want to do. Not being able to take it far works directly against that though.
Sounds like a whole heap of cheap shots to me
Do as Steve suggested and let us know what you find
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jdk81
Joined: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2372 Location: Ballarat, VIC
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 Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 5:57 am |
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scorpydude wrote: Ever since I semi-layed the car on it's side and had all the weight of the vehicle on the front right wheel it's had some issues. I cant say exactly what the go is, but I would be looking at steering links and rods etc, check the kingpins, and chekc the rim. scorpydude wrote: I think we're both smart enough to know I'm not
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mrw82

az supporter
Joined: Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 1350 Location: stuck in a hole. not off road, just deception bay.
Vehicle: snotbox, 84 LWB sierra 1 litre
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