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orangeshannon
Joined: Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:03 am Posts: 574 Location: Burwood, Victoria
Vehicle: yellow 83 sierra
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well the other night i had a few mates over and after a few drinks thourght it would be a good idea to put a v6 commo motor into my LWB vitara.
i just so happen to have a LWB vitara as a parts car and just so happen to have a commodore v6 engine, box and cut down wiring loom complete engine swap ready to go into a car.
i will put range rover diffs under it front and rear
would this be possiable. has it been done befor?
what would i do about transfer case?
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buzbox
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3600 Location: Wollongong NSW
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I think you had too many drinks.
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Bucket

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Joined: Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 2191 Location: Vic
Vehicle: SJ50 hardtop!
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 Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:25 am |
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V6 has been done.
There's a zook I used to work on up in northern Sydney that competed and was running rangie diffs. He ran them with Sierra transfer and Sierra engine.
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orangeshannon
Joined: Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:03 am Posts: 574 Location: Burwood, Victoria
Vehicle: yellow 83 sierra
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuzK4vR3dA4
i did find this one on youtube but i wouldnt do a supercharger on mine are you able to get a hold of that guy that u know that has done one i am very interested now all i need is the diffs and sort out the transfer case thats allmost it
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RIKSTR

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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1278 Location: Canberra
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Look up Tigger on here. You use a Hilux case with adaptors from marks
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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orangeshannon wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuzK4vR3dA4 i did find this one on youtube but i wouldnt do a supercharger on mine are you able to get a hold of that guy that u know that has done one i am very interested now all i need is the diffs and sort out the transfer case thats allmost it
build thread right here: http://auszookers.com/index.php?name=Fo ... ic&t=19049
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Red89
Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2801 Location: Perth
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RIKSTR wrote: Look up Tigger on here. You use a Hilux case with adaptors from marks
x2 but expect to get stung for the adaptor, it aint cheap.
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joeblow
Joined: Sat May 10, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 3273 Location: melbourne
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orangeshannon wrote: well the other night i had a few mates over and after a few drinks thourght it would be a good idea to put a v6 commo motor into my........................
Thats the exact scenario that Holden went through with the VN!
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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joeblow wrote: orangeshannon wrote: well the other night i had a few mates over and after a few drinks thourght it would be a good idea to put a v6 commo motor into my........................
Thats the exact scenario that Holden went through with the VN!
Just before they trauled through the dusty old GMC back catalogue of out dated motors to find said V6. 
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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Fatzook wrote: joeblow wrote: orangeshannon wrote: well the other night i had a few mates over and after a few drinks thourght it would be a good idea to put a v6 commo motor into my........................
Thats the exact scenario that Holden went through with the VN! Just before they trauled through the dusty old GMC back catalogue of out dated motors to find said V6. 
IMO the RB30 was their best engine 
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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atari4x4 wrote: Fatzook wrote: joeblow wrote: orangeshannon wrote: well the other night i had a few mates over and after a few drinks thourght it would be a good idea to put a v6 commo motor into my........................
Thats the exact scenario that Holden went through with the VN! Just before they trauled through the dusty old GMC back catalogue of out dated motors to find said V6.  IMO the RB30 was their best engine 
Yep. ANd with some interwebbing you can slap on a RB25DET head and snail for some SERIOUS grunt!
But fitting a straight 6 into a vitara would be nigh on impossible 
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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i was mainly getting to the point of it's really a nissan motor
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Brett

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Joined: Tue May 27, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1791 Location: Central coast NSW
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Patrol diffs will line up with lux tcase. rover are off set and gearing is wrong.
have you ran a tape over anything yet?
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Bucket

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Joined: Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 2191 Location: Vic
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Brett, have you seen the white rangie zook up your way yet?? He competes in toperi and willowglen. It's a Sierra but yeah, that thing runs rangie diffs and standard Sierra case
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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Rangie diffs are wide, but not that strong. And Toy diffs have MUCH cheaper and more readily available aftermarket parts than Rangie gear.
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Brett

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Joined: Tue May 27, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1791 Location: Central coast NSW
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havent seen the sierra on rovers in real life.
Why would you go lux diffs? Vitara diffs are wider. that would be like putting nt sierra diffs under a wt
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orangeshannon
Joined: Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:03 am Posts: 574 Location: Burwood, Victoria
Vehicle: yellow 83 sierra
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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nope, it's a heavy old low tech motor the only good thing about them is they're everywhere & cheap.
I'd be looking at the suzuki H27a 2.7l V6 similar power out of less capaicity & less weight.
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Bucket

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Joined: Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 2191 Location: Vic
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If you've got the stuff there and really don't have much to lose, just do it.
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orangeshannon
Joined: Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:03 am Posts: 574 Location: Burwood, Victoria
Vehicle: yellow 83 sierra
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 Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:18 pm |
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yeh thats the thing i could get that suzuki engine but i allready have allmost all the parts i need i got a complete engine and gearbox with the wiring loom allready cut down to suit v6 conversion and i allready have the car with no engine in it.
but i read that build up that that guy did and he said that he used prado chassis which i duno how much that will cost me if i can somehow get new diffs under the vitara chassis would be what i would go for being the cheaper option
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steve

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 7681 Location: Brisbane
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What's the purpose though? Are you planning for it to be road driven, or is it a comp buggy? and if so, what comps will you enter and will you comply with the rules? or is it just for social wheeling bush only? if so, do you have places to take it?
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orangeshannon
Joined: Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:03 am Posts: 574 Location: Burwood, Victoria
Vehicle: yellow 83 sierra
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im not sure what i would use it for mosdt likly as a bush basher comp would be allright but i dont think i can afford to do that. even better making it road leagel but would cost me alot engineering it all up. would be just for fun thats about all
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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In what way do you think it will better with a 3.8 v6 in it? Vitaras don't lack power off road, only gearing.
If you are a really good fabricator and problem solver, then knock yourself out, but it's going to be about four times more complex and expensive than you imagine now, and might not ever be drivable, legal or reliable enough to ever actually enjoy. and then you'll go on a trip and get spanked on an obstacle by christover.
I bench race all sorts of crazy ideas after a few drinks, (somtimes even sober) but not everything you own or can dream up is a good idea just because you own it or can dream it up.
Keep it simple I say.
Steve
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orangeshannon
Joined: Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:03 am Posts: 574 Location: Burwood, Victoria
Vehicle: yellow 83 sierra
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 Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:50 am |
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yeh i just wanted to make use of that engine i have lieing around and now that i got a car with no engine i was thinking i might as well put them together see how it gose but its a pain in the but as i have to change diffs and sort out a transfer case and adaptor plate for it
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bohuler

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Joined: Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:18 am Posts: 1376 Location: Avonsleigh, Victoria
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Give marks 4wd adaptors a ring and ask to speak to elliot booth and tell him that your a friend of dave's and after mates rates on prices! (elliot was my best man at my wedding  ) That way you know your not getting bent over by some random guy working for marks. (your getting bent over and jabbed by my mate  ) Naw, seriously, he's a good bloke and will look after you
Dave
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Mrhb2u

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Joined: Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:12 am Posts: 61 Location: Northside bitches !
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buzbox wrote: I think you had too many drinks. 
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