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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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With my braking system. I have upgraded everything to make the brakes good and engineerable. Now im thinking i will need another prob valve to suit the disc rear. I just don't know where to put it exactly A B or C Position? Anyone have an idea? Picture shows what i am using.  Thanks for any help 
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Last edited by BlueSuzy on Sun Oct 07, 2012 9:53 am, edited 1 time in total.
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sideways

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Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:53 pm Posts: 5936 Location: Northcliffe, W.A.
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Aren't prop valves un-engineerable?
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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 Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 9:59 am |
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sideways wrote: Aren't prop valves un-engineerable? I know some engineered. Have to be boxed/hidden or not in easily adjustable reach. *I'm also running coilovers* Might even have to find a self load adjusting one yet. Havent spoken to engineer recently.
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atari4x4

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BlueSuzy wrote: sideways wrote: Aren't prop valves un-engineerable? I know some engineered. Have to be boxed/hidden or not in easily adjustable reach. +1
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Zook_Fan

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Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4531 Location: Toowoomba
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It has to go on line "C". Aftermarket prop valves just limit the flow through the line, if you put it on either line before the sierra prop valve it will mess with how that valve works.
Would make positioning of it a lot easier to because it can be anywhere along the chassis rail.
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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I was thinking C also. Its a spidertrax type. But on they recomend put it up near the booster somewhere. (cant remember exact) They may have a slightly different braking system in the USA My lines are all custom, But will work it out up the bum somewhere. The original prop valve you can see just behind the transfer on the left, But my rear final line goes all the way up the back, and drops infront of the tank for the hose/bracket. Will work it out there somewhere. Bit of room to play. 
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sideways

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Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:53 pm Posts: 5936 Location: Northcliffe, W.A.
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atari4x4 wrote: BlueSuzy wrote: sideways wrote: Aren't prop valves un-engineerable? I know some engineered. Have to be boxed/hidden or not in easily adjustable reach. +1 I'l go back to my box then. 
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
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 Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:31 am |
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Looks like the US use a different system. so wont be copying them 
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DarkHorse

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Joined: Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 5413
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 Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 2:43 pm |
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Is that pic a stock one? My guess would be they recommend putting it up near the booster if it's the only one in the system.
Piggybacking it onto a stock system with an exisiting self-adjusting one I reckon Zook_Fan is on the money.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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The pic is stock US(?) they don't look the same on local cars.
Steve.
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
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Gwagensteve wrote: The pic is stock US(?) they don't look the same on local cars.
Steve. Yes. Weird they use a different system!? This is for a twin line rear diff im guessing. Not sure if aussie twin rears ones are same? http://www.suzuki-forums.com/suzuki-jim ... valve.htmlMine is a single line diff like most 90's sierras. 
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
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DarkHorse wrote: Is that pic a stock one? My guess would be they recommend putting it up near the booster if it's the only one in the system.
Piggybacking it onto a stock system with an exisiting self-adjusting one I reckon Zook_Fan is on the money. My original prop valve is very close to original spot. I know some cruisers have prop valves bolted up next to the master
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DarkHorse

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BlueSuzy wrote: I know some cruisers have prop valves bolted up next to the master Yes, but only one valve in the system, yeah?
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
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 Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 4:49 pm |
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Yes like my drawing
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303zuke

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Joined: Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2447
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BlueSuzy wrote: Gwagensteve wrote: The pic is stock US(?) they don't look the same on local cars.
Steve. Yes. Weird they use a different system!? US Brakes are plumbed in a cross-over X pattern, where the front left wheel is plumbed with the rear right and the front right is plumbed to the rear left. Both circuits are identical. It's purportedly designed to prevent lock-up skids in snowy conditions.
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
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 Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:01 am |
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Ah ok. Tyring to contact engineer atm.
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
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 Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:16 am |
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Got hold of engineer. Dont have to run the lux type bar load sensing. Its not a commercial vehicle. Adjustable valves are engineerable. Going to run Blue A line for front only Moreon B/C line for rear only The master is suited for discs anyway. All he said he is looking for is the front to lock up before the rear. 
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fordem
Joined: Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 2656 Location: Georgetown, Guyana
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303zuke wrote: BlueSuzy wrote: Gwagensteve wrote: The pic is stock US(?) they don't look the same on local cars.
Steve. Yes. Weird they use a different system!? US Brakes are plumbed in a cross-over X pattern, where the front left wheel is plumbed with the rear right and the front right is plumbed to the rear left. Both circuits are identical. It's purportedly designed to prevent lock-up skids in snowy conditions. It has nothing to do with lock-up skids or snow - it is what is known as a "split-diagonal" system and it's purpose is to ensure that a leak does not cause total brake failure - a leak in either circuit will affect one front & one rear wheel only.
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