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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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 Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:20 pm |
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Destroyed the Electric fan and AC clutch yesterday .
Fan - Is there any aftermarket fans that are close enough in size and mountings that will suit. Obviously, I can refit the plug.
AC Compressor - Went through stages yesterday. Only worked some of the time. Later it started to burn the belt so I turned it off. Later in the day it started zzz'ing from 4,000 RPM up sounding like a turbo spooling but eventually turned into a groan. I am assuming its the clutch at this stage, but will do a little testing later. Can the clutch assembly be removed and replaced on these compressors, or does that mean a new compressor?
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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 Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:21 pm |
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Fan, Unsure. I have an original if you need it. m13a nonvvt
AC comp, Clutches come off with one bolt if you lock the outer section in a vice or something. Bit tricky to hold it. Unsure about finding another one though.
Sound like the compressor is abit shit though.. Seizeing up so the clutch slips, heating up and melting your belt..
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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I have 2 fan's here to chose from, 2nd hand $30 each..
The front bearing's in the a/c pump's do let go, as any would, I have see the bearing seize & destroy the front plate on the compressor, both time's I have fitted a 2nd hand unit with new clutch & bearing.....
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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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 Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 1:15 am |
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I have just pulled the radiator, and removed the clutch. As I suspected - clutch and bearing disintegrated. Can I get a replacement clutch and bearing assembly? Are they specific to Jimny or are they fairly stsandard?
ANd of course, where and likely cost?
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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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 Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 3:58 am |
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Really needs a new magnet to.
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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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 Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:45 am |
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If I want to drive the vehicle withOUT(edit) the AC compressor in the loop, what size belt do I need?
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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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 Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 10:49 pm |
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bump. Anyone got any info on these?
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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Bugsta wrote: If I want to drive the vehicle withOUT(edit) the AC compressor in the loop, what size belt do I need?
Run some string round the pully's then measure said string, that's the length you need, then just add 4pk to the front of said measurement...
no Jim came out without A/c, so the size you want is unknown..
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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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 Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 11:24 pm |
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Ok, string is a good idea. Was going to use a sewing tape, but that would get a slightly longer measurement.
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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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 Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 7:52 pm |
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Ok, so last week I took the whole assembly - pulley, clutch plate to Mr Cool and they removed and refit the bearing, and provided me with a new coil and resurfaced the pulley and clutch plate.
I wanted to do it all in situe so I did not have do de/regas at extra cost. To remove and refit the coil meant an external circlip. Straight circlip pliers were useless because they were too long and fouled on the radiator. Also, using a headlamp and mirror, I just could not see anything. The coil was 20mm deep, and the bent nose on any standard bent pliers are only 15mm. I purchased a pair of $13 SuperCrap pliers and heat bent them yesterday in the vice with my MAPP kit. (I'll post a pic of this some time). These worked a charm and with a bit of reverse mirror practice, had the old coil off, and the new one on.
So, now my air con works again. I also notice the engine reving/surging is gone, so I think this was caused by the AC compressor missbehaving due to the dead bearing.
Unfortunately, the zzz'ing sound is still there and I suspect its the idler pulley pulley. I might squirt water at each pulley one at a time and see if the sound changes.
Anyone know which its likely to be?
Actualy now that I think about it, I recall my old (67) holden having a very minor, and permanent zz'ing sound in the power steering pump. This is much louder though and audible by anyone nearby with their window down!
edit: Just as a reminder - Its only audible above the engine noise above ~2,500 revs.
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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 Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 8:24 pm |
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Do you have powersteering? Alot of jeeps do this.
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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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 Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 8:41 pm |
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Yes, thats why I mention it. It was never this loud though. Sounds like some weird turbo.
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
Vehicle: 03 Jimny
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 Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 8:50 pm |
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Bugsta wrote: weird turbo. It really does  Could be you alternator bearing Wayne
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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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 Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 8:53 pm |
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I am pretty sure its coming from the LHS. Just couldn't get my head close enough hehe to identify which one hehe
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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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 Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 8:11 am |
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Confirmed today that it is the Idler pulley.
Anyone know if this bearing is replaceable and perhaps what the specs/part number would be
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Moag

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Joined: Thu Mar 04, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 411 Location: Kununurra WA ^ Top End
Vehicle: 2001 Jimny M13A
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 Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 9:02 am |
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I replaced mine with NULINE EP158 from a Holden Cruze ..... same same but cheaper.
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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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 Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 9:36 am |
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Perhaps I have the wrong name. Its the adjuster/tensioner pulley. I didn't realise there was another idle pulley.
How bout that one 
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Moag

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Joined: Thu Mar 04, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 411 Location: Kununurra WA ^ Top End
Vehicle: 2001 Jimny M13A
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 Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 9:51 am |
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Its the one on the aircon belt that adjusts the belt tension (on a M13A engine).
Is this what your after?
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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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 Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 11:01 am |
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Yep thats the one.
Was at my dad's. He got out his stethescope with midified screw driver and we did some sound and rev tests. Confirmed ot had to be the tensioner. Makes a whizzing sound from about 2,500 RPM upwards and just gets louder.
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Moag

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Joined: Thu Mar 04, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 411 Location: Kununurra WA ^ Top End
Vehicle: 2001 Jimny M13A
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 Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 11:37 am |
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So the one above is what you need, just ask for 2002 holden cruze one (M15A engine).
Same thing (size), and cheaper.
Or you might be able press the fucked bearing out of the pulley and find one the same size from a bearing place.
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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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 Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 11:38 am |
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Serious? The Holden cruze has the same series engine?
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Moag

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Joined: Thu Mar 04, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 411 Location: Kununurra WA ^ Top End
Vehicle: 2001 Jimny M13A
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Drover and then the Cruze 4x4 to compete with the Jimny.
Edit: The pdf I got the part number from just scroll down to General Motors 
Last edited by Moag on Mon Dec 26, 2011 12:00 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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 Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 11:58 am |
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On the blower to Repco tomorrow for pulley and front shocks.
I'd love to get some Bilsteins but can't wait that long. I think both are now shot. Just have to go back to HQ rears and remove the dust cover unless I can find a 500mm upside down mono quickly.
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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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 Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 9:55 pm |
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Would this pulley be the same on all of the m--a series engines? m15/m16/m18
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Moag

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Joined: Thu Mar 04, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 411 Location: Kununurra WA ^ Top End
Vehicle: 2001 Jimny M13A
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 Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 10:17 pm |
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Don't know.....but good question!!!
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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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 Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 10:22 pm |
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Next thing where to get a pulley or bearing today!
Bearing places closed
Repco doesn't list it
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zuk85
Joined: Sun Jul 05, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 656 Location: Sunshine coast
Vehicle: 07 vvt jimny
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 Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 10:28 pm |
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I know i have been trying to find a wrecked cruze up here to get the m15a out of it lol
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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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 Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 11:25 pm |
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I'll be looking for a m16a from a Swift GTi
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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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 Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 12:25 am |
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Well I took the tensioner pulley off, drilled a hole and removed the seal, washed it out with kero, repacked it, washed it again with degreaser, repacked it, reinstalled the seal, glued the hole and reinstalled the pulley. The noise is still there but a little quieter I think.
Will have to do till I can get a replacement.
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Moag

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Joined: Thu Mar 04, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 411 Location: Kununurra WA ^ Top End
Vehicle: 2001 Jimny M13A
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Total different to the Cruze one. The cruze one fits on a non VV M13A without power steering for certain.
So sent you up the garden path hey.
suzistore have what you need $$
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