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boost=money
Joined: Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 240 Location: brisbane
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hey every one just wonder how stong zook diffs r? i run 31's and lockers front and rear and have not broken any thing yet, but i want to run 35's with 6.5 transfer gears and 5.38? diff gears and locker front and rear with cromo cv's and axels in the front, how long do u think this will last on rocks ect before it breaks crown wheel or some thing? or would i b safer going straight fo hilux diffs with 5.12 diff gears, thanks
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zukmeista
Joined: Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1273 Location: Whangarei,N.Z.
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35's on zook diffs = big bang sound 
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dank
Joined: Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1157 Location: VIC
Vehicle: WR250F/Jeep XJ
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you could build it up with HD front cvs and Trail tough now do HD CrMo rear replacemnt axles as well.
A lot of guys in the states run similar setups to you on rocks and they seem to go alright going off what they say on the forums. But if you have the skills to weld and fit hilux diffs you might find its a cheaper option if you are going to do the labour yourself.
If you like dumping the clutch and are really rough on your car then maybe hilux diffs are the way to go as the bigger ring and pinion will probably be worthwhile.
I know guys that run 35.5 Q78 swampers on Zook diffs with no real dramas with upgraded components here in vic. but it all comes down to how you drive!
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boost=money
Joined: Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 240 Location: brisbane
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i dont drive it to hard, i was just woried about having so much gearing behined the g16b all that touqe sent to zook diffs, i want to run 35/12.5/15 trepadors, on a -50 rim or close to it, the main resion i want to keep zook diffs is clearence under the centre,
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dank
Joined: Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1157 Location: VIC
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 Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 4:22 pm |
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Best thing you've done or will be doing is splitting up the gear reduction in both your diffs and your transfer. The distributes the load though the whole driveline which means your transfer isn't going to wind up too much and snap mounts.
if you wet 6.5s and 3.7 diffs on 35s you might find that you would break shit more often. your gearing is going to be pretty low with 5.38s and 6.5s. hope you don't like going fast on the road!
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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boost=money wrote: hey every one just wonder how stong zook diffs r? i run 31's and lockers front and rear and have not broken any thing yet, but i want to run 35's with 6.5 transfer gears and 5.38? diff gears and locker front and rear with cromo cv's and axels in the front, how long do u think this will last on rocks ect before it breaks crown wheel or some thing? or would i b safer going straight fo hilux diffs with 5.12 diff gears, thanks
Is it just a comp rig or trail basher? I'm guessing you won't be driving on the road...
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boost=money
Joined: Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 240 Location: brisbane
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i dont plan on driving it on the road any more, bush only, want to start enter some comps once it is all done, so i shold be ok the set up i want? what would break first crown wheel? and where can u get rear cro moly axel in australia? i know locktup sell the front's and the gearing just have not come across rear axels
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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Im in the process of working out full floating axles in 4340 cromo for the rear, its not going to be cheap, but will be seriously strong
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boost=money
Joined: Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 240 Location: brisbane
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is there a way to make the adjusters stronger on the carryers? i just broke an other one driving to a mates place, the adjuster part finds it way losse bending the lock tub upand the centre flobs around making a great noise,
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steve

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 7681 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 75 Cruiser
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Quote: or would i b safer going straight fo hilux diffs with 5.12 diff gears, thanks you mean 5.29 ? boost=money wrote: i dont drive it to hard, i was just woried about having so much gearing behined the g16b all that touqe sent to zook diffs, i want to run 35/12.5/15 trepadors, on a -50 rim or close to it, the main resion i want to keep zook diffs is clearence under the centre,
i wouldn't go above 31 - 33s on Sierra diffs, you can upgrade axles and cvs but the rest will bend too.
You only lose 10mm clearence with hilux diffs! Don't beleive all those intermegeek rumours about how you have to run 44s to get the same clearence as 31s
BUT, as said above, depends how you drive, and what you drive on. If you just drive mud then you could run 38s on sierra diffs
What comps are you going to do? Check the entry rules before you modify anything.
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boost=money
Joined: Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 240 Location: brisbane
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sounds lke hilux diffs r the go, r hilux and bundara the same width? or will hilux front and rear b fine for off road only use. r all the entry rules different or mostly the same, i only want to entry the easyer comps like tuff tracks ect
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steve

I live here!
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 7681 Location: Brisbane
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You better check with the Tough Track comp rules, but i think every mod has to be blue plated or legal, and so i don't think they would allow hilux diffs on a sierra, but check with them.
so yeah, best to check comp rules before doing anything. Don't ask here about their rules, ring them up and get real information.
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mnemonix

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Joined: Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1409 Location: Newcastle NSW
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What terrain do you plan to drive with 6.5's and 5.38:1 diffs? Thats a seriously low crawl ratio.
I run 6.5's and 4.1:1 with 33's locked front and rear in my ute. Broke my first pinion gear last week after a couple of years of abuse.
I've never had CV or axle issues - However I'm aware of how to not abuse a drivetrain.
In a comp scenario with timelimits and bonus lines to challenge you, I'd expect to frequently break components.
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