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IN2DEP

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Joined: Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 739 Location: Hoppers Crossing
Vehicle: 95 Sierra Soft top
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 Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:45 pm |
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Hey guys
I tryed pulling a mate out today and it wasnt engaging to 4wd, Everything was working right, tcase was running and the gear shift was in but the front wheels wernt spinning at all, not even on wet grass
What do yous think ??
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lordviper556
Joined: Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 716 Location: sunny coast qld
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 Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:47 pm |
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sounds like you could have a problem with your hubs.
did u rember to put them in 
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:09 am |
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lordviper556 wrote: sounds like you could have a problem with your hubs.
did u rember to put them in :P
Done that!!!
Was the front shaft spinning?
sound's like hub's
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IN2DEP

az supporter
Joined: Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 739 Location: Hoppers Crossing
Vehicle: 95 Sierra Soft top
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 Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:15 am |
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lol The first thing i do when going off road is locking the hubs lol not to sure if the front shaft was spinning but ill have a check and see
Cheers guys 
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:16 am |
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_________________ I used to be indecisive,
now I'm not so sure.....
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IN2DEP

az supporter
Joined: Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 739 Location: Hoppers Crossing
Vehicle: 95 Sierra Soft top
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 Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:14 am |
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Well i always take them out off lock soon as i hit the road, ill check it out after work and let you guys know
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IN2DEP

az supporter
Joined: Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 739 Location: Hoppers Crossing
Vehicle: 95 Sierra Soft top
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 Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 9:32 pm |
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Yup !! the front drive shaft is spinning, I passed by the ballarat ARB shop after work today and asked him and he told me that its my free wheeling hubs
So i guess its time to get new hubs lol
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lordviper556
Joined: Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 716 Location: sunny coast qld
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 Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:21 pm |
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they are pretty cheap i got a set for about 80 bucks from the wreckers
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:44 pm |
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IN2DEP wrote: Yup !! the front drive shaft is spinning, I passed by the ballarat ARB shop after work today and asked him and he told me that its my free wheeling hubs
So i guess its time to get new hubs lol
Pull em apart & see if it's not just a simple lack of lubrication in there, shit load's cheaper if it is..
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IN2DEP

az supporter
Joined: Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 739 Location: Hoppers Crossing
Vehicle: 95 Sierra Soft top
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 Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:14 am |
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Well i told the guy that checked it that the left side one is very hard to turn and that ive been using a shifter to turn it cause it was so hard to turn
and he said well thats the problem then, he gos it only takes one to go wrong for both not to work, but ill open them up on sat and see what if anything looks wrong or need more lub
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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 Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:21 am |
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$10 says the spring is broken inside the hub and that it has no grease in there.
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IN2DEP

az supporter
Joined: Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 739 Location: Hoppers Crossing
Vehicle: 95 Sierra Soft top
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 Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 4:16 pm |
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lol how much does a spring cost ?? 
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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 Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:39 pm |
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thats the best part, you cant just buy the spring, you have to but a rebuild kit or a second hand hub  even though a new spring would cost $2 n-one makes them.
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IN2DEP

az supporter
Joined: Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 739 Location: Hoppers Crossing
Vehicle: 95 Sierra Soft top
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 Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:13 pm |
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Opened it up the other day, dry as a bone, no lub and all rusty and shit, that was just the first part i couldnt get the other part off lol
so does that mean its farked or can i fix it ??
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89_tintop

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Joined: Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3159 Location: gold coast
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 Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:58 pm |
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mine were in similar condition..
i pulled them apart sandblasted some pieces and clean the rest on a wire wheel.
greased them and put em back together.. still werent 100% but got me out of trouble. ended up with a spare set now as it was always in the back of my head that they werent 100%. will be fully rebuilding the spares when i get time
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IN2DEP

az supporter
Joined: Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 739 Location: Hoppers Crossing
Vehicle: 95 Sierra Soft top
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 Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 5:12 pm |
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89_tintop wrote: mine were in similar condition..
i pulled them apart sandblasted some pieces and clean the rest on a wire wheel.
greased them and put em back together.. still werent 100% but got me out of trouble. ended up with a spare set now as it was always in the back of my head that they werent 100%. will be fully rebuilding the spares when i get time
Yeah thats what im thinkingof doing getting new ones and rebuilding the old ones for spares
any body got a price on getting new ones fitted ??
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lordviper556
Joined: Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 716 Location: sunny coast qld
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 Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 10:31 pm |
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i got a set for 80 bucks, and you can fit them yourself. only 5 or 6 bolts to undo slip the old 1 off and then put the new 1 on and bobs ur aunty lol.
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want33s

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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8134 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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 Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 11:00 pm |
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I have a few sets of good used Sierra hubs here...
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IN2DEP

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Joined: Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 739 Location: Hoppers Crossing
Vehicle: 95 Sierra Soft top
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 Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:10 pm |
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want33s wrote: I have a few sets of good used Sierra hubs here... PM sent 
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lauby

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Joined: Sat Dec 05, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 254 Location: Gold Coast
Vehicle: 91 Sierra
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 Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 3:03 am |
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in the process of stripping a front WT diff, following the manual and this bit came of before it was supposed too.
before
after
Then i took the hub of and discovered this,
The one on the right
new hub required, i agree. but what about the picture 1 and 2, should i be looking for another diff or is there a part to fix this ?
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finlay113
Joined: Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 477 Location: ballarat
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 Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 3:07 am |
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you just need a new stub and bearings. theres just 4 bolts to pull the stub off. the tin backing plate will come off with it also
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whincup

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Joined: Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 1588 Location: Gracemere, QLD
Vehicle: '94 suzuki maruti
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 Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 2:25 pm |
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so did it just turn out to be something broken in the hub?
ive just spent 3 hours digging my car out of the mud because it wont go into 4wd... front shaft is spinning, front left hub needs a set of pliers to turn however the tyre on that side does look like its getting a little bit of power so im guessing the other side hub is broken.
keen to know exactly what went wrong because i have almost identical symptoms.
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1oftheboys
Joined: Mon May 28, 2012 10:17 am Posts: 147 Location: SA
Vehicle: 89 SWB vit
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 Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:25 pm |
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rather than starting a new thread hope i'm doing the right thing by jumping onto this one. I'm having same probs as people here, vitara hubs are locked, front shafts are spinning when in 4wd but the wheels aren't. Read through and thought it could be my hubs. Opened them up and they were pretty rusty (pics below). From how they look I'm guessing that they're stuffed?! Next question is if they are stuffed would i be better off with decent set of second handys or a brand new set? Don't use 4WD as often as i'd like but want it to work properly when i do 
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Jazzor

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Joined: Sat Jul 24, 2010 4:42 pm Posts: 502 Location: Kingston, Tas
Vehicle: 85 Suzuki Sierra
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 Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:27 pm |
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Yea your right, that cog/gear needs to slide onto the other gears spline on the end of the axle for the front wheels to turn. See if you can get some oil/grease into them and get them moving, but they look like they are in pretty bad condition going by the pic. Have you had the hubs in and the front wheels turning before?, that's very dry 
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want33s

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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8134 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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 Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:58 pm |
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I have a big bucket full of hubs here..
Does anyone think it's worth my time to reco a few?
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suzukikid
Joined: Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 2803 Location: Melton Victoria!
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 Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:20 pm |
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hey in2deep i got a few hub parts here if ya work out what is wrong....
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1oftheboys
Joined: Mon May 28, 2012 10:17 am Posts: 147 Location: SA
Vehicle: 89 SWB vit
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 Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:24 pm |
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when i bought it the guy said he'd taken it on the beach in 4wd. He seemed like a genuine guy so i believed it was working...until we got stuck the other week and had no 4wd to get out! If i did get them working would they last very long given their condition? Just want to know if its worth the time trying to get them working
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Jazzor

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Joined: Sat Jul 24, 2010 4:42 pm Posts: 502 Location: Kingston, Tas
Vehicle: 85 Suzuki Sierra
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 Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 11:32 pm |
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Ah so he may have thought 4wd was working while tearing around in 2wd. A set of 2nd hand ones will be cheap and work, want33s wanted $50 for some 2 years ago!, i'm not sure if they have increased in value  . You could always have a go while organising to get another set?, if you can get them apart, clean them up to get the surface rust off and grease them up they could come up ok. If it were me I would have a quick go and see how they come up, and if not really well buy another set. It may be worth checking the rest of the front dif too, if the hubs are that neglected the rest of it behind the hub may be in need to of maintenance too  .
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just_cruizin

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Joined: Sun Jun 25, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 2867 Location: here
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 Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:14 am |
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just break more CV's that way you always inspect and lube your hubs.
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suzukikid
Joined: Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 2803 Location: Melton Victoria!
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 Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:19 pm |
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just cruizin ya spot on there!!!!
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