[shep]

Fatzook wrote:

shep wrote:

hay ball. i want a 15amp tig that can do alloy. what ya got?

You can get an AC/DC Jasic Inverter machine that will run on 15A.

UniTIG

to many buttons ball sells welding supply's so i have to buy it through
him or he will whinge at me forever.

[ball]

Fatzook wrote:

shep wrote:

hay ball. i want a 15amp tig that can do alloy. what ya got?

You can get an AC/DC Jasic Inverter machine that will run on 15A.

UniTIG

Nope,

they have left off the rated input current for the machine. The BOC machine that has almost the same specs has an input rating of 28 amps.

[Fatzook]

ball wrote:

Fatzook wrote:

shep wrote:

hay ball. i want a 15amp tig that can do alloy. what ya got?

You can get an AC/DC Jasic Inverter machine that will run on 15A.

UniTIG

Nope,

they have left off the rated input current for the machine. The BOC machine that has almost the same specs has an input rating of 28 amps.

Yeah they are just a stockist. Here is the info from the importer WGA.
Looks like you need 25A to run it flat bickies.
WGA

Even this machine with good clean power would barely do 5mm ally. Any thicker and you will need 415V.

[shep]

i need to be able to weld 5mm alloy cos my 4 month old, $55k quintrex is full
of cracks and it will cost me 4 grand to get any warranty work done.

so i will buy a welder and learn how to use it.

[banga]

Fatzook wrote:

shep wrote:

hay ball. i want a 15amp tig that can do alloy. what ya got?

You can get an AC/DC Jasic Inverter machine that will run on 15A.

UniTIG

i have the jasic inverter tig dont get the uni it is pretty much the same put it dosen't have the same insides. the unis are made by the brother or something like that and they actualy have jasic written on them but i think the components are different. they are pretty much the same price i think i payed 1600 for mine it is good but i am used to a kempi and they are like chalk and cheese the kempi's poo over the jasic but are about $6000. if i had that much money would have got a kempi they are the ducks nuts in the business. jasic also make an inverter mig 250amp for $1600 we have one at work if i had known about it before i had bought my mig would have bought one it craps over our wia machines on ally some much better.

[benji]

i got a jasic for 1600 plus tax i your intrested

[steak_knife]

shep wrote:

i need to be able to weld 5mm alloy cos my 4 month old, $55k quintrex is full
of cracks and it will cost me 4 grand to get any warranty work done.

so i will buy a welder and learn how to use it.

F*#k your rough Shep!!!

How did you crack it??

[shep]

steknig wrote:

shep wrote:

i need to be able to weld 5mm alloy cos my 4 month old, $55k quintrex is full
of cracks and it will cost me 4 grand to get any warranty work done.

so i will buy a welder and learn how to use it.

F*#k your rough Shep!!!

How did you crack it??

the dickheads ground all the weld off.

[Fatzook]

shep wrote:

steknig wrote:

shep wrote:

i need to be able to weld 5mm alloy cos my 4 month old, $55k quintrex is full
of cracks and it will cost me 4 grand to get any warranty work done.

so i will buy a welder and learn how to use it.

F*#k your rough Shep!!!

How did you crack it??

the dickheads ground all the weld off.

Yeah I'd rather see a weld than a crack

[banga]

a word of advice if you do end up welding it get absolutely all the paint and crap off in the weld area unlike steel it goes into your weld and is the biggest pain in the arse ally needs to be as clean as you can get it. the worst is when people get a crack in the bottom of the boat and silicon it up

[brendan]

banga wrote:

a word of advice if you do end up welding it get absolutely all the paint and crap off in the weld area unlike steel it goes into your weld and is the biggest pain in the arse ally needs to be as clean as you can get it. the worst is when people get a crack in the bottom of the boat and silicon it up

x2 aluminium needs to be very clean, even wipe with acetone and wipe the filler wire too. you will be amazed how much shit is on the filler wire

[shep]

brendan wrote:

banga wrote:

a word of advice if you do end up welding it get absolutely all the paint and crap off in the weld area unlike steel it goes into your weld and is the biggest pain in the arse ally needs to be as clean as you can get it. the worst is when people get a crack in the bottom of the boat and silicon it up

x2 aluminium needs to be very clean, even wipe with acetone and wipe the filler wire too. you will be amazed how much shit is on the filler wire

there will be a lot of practicing before i touch the boat. sorted out a 40amp
plug in my meter box today

[sbyard]

What are decent brands to look out for when buying a tig welder? What can I expect to spend?

Cheers,
Sam

[ball]

What do you want to weld?

[Moph]

I bought a Chinese made, locally Perth supported AC/DC TIG from Weldsmart. They've got a large warehouse in Canning Vale with test bench, in-house tech etc for servicing. Haven't TIG'd with it yet but it is definitely the nicest arc welder I've used - easy to get the arc started and seems to be nice and stable once going.

Paid about $1500 from memory ... it's the only one I could find anywhere close to that price that had local support and would weld aluminium (AC TIG). You can get them much cheaper if you don't need to weld aluminium - just get a DC TIG.

[unique_seek]

Mate depends if you want to weld ally or not...if you do,then you need an AC/DC tig,if you don't want/need to do ally,get a high frequency dc tig(high frequency means you don't need to scratch the tungsten to start the weld)

We use Miller(3phase) and Kempy(portable 15amp)

If you do get a Chinese made one...make sure you can get parts for it!!!!!and get a tig only...don't waste your time on a 3 in one stick/tig/plasma or any of those,but a good tig should have stick(MMA)

A good portable ac/dc will set you back around 4-5K,and the Chinese are around 1-2K

[unique_seek]

Also depends what features you want/need...for ally I would recommend having Amp control via foot pedal,or roller/slider on the hand piece.....once she is hot you need to chase it or turn your amps down.....very hand!

[sbyard]

Thanks for your help. I'm not sure if I want to weld ally yet, but having the option to wouldn't be a bad thing.

Most of the welding I would be doing would be, first of all, rust repairs on the sierra. I have an ally roll-cage I would like to modify but that's the least of my concerns.

Also fabbing up some sliders and a rear and front bar, but they most likely be done with a mig I can gain access too.

Thanks again for your help. The information is very helpful!

Sam

[unique_seek]

no worries mate

[Fatzook]

For the type of work you are doing, it doesn't sound like you need a TIG. You could easily get that work done with a MIG.

[Lockie666]

Hey everyone, just a quick question.

I'm looking at buying an Arc welder. I've been thinking about buying a Cigweld Arc welder from supercheap for 150$ on special just wondering if it would be worth spending the coin on something a little bit better. I'm really just going to use it for welding up mild steel for bar work and a few other small jobs on the zook. I actually have a gasless mig welder in the shed at the moment, it's my brothers but I find it better and cleaner to use an arc welder.

I don't know that much about welders and would it be worth buying for what I intend to use it for or should I invest a bit more money?

[shep]

spend a little bit more and get a BOC (or similar) inverter welder. mine is a
200amp jobbie that even a monkey could use to weld stuff together.

[jdk81]

shep wrote:

mine is a 200amp jobbie that even a monkey could use to weld stuff together.

Obviously

[Fatzook]

shep wrote:

spend a little bit more and get a BOC (or similar) inverter welder. mine is a
200amp jobbie that even a monkey could use to weld stuff together.

X2.

The inverter units are much smoother to weld with.

Why MMA? MIG is way nicer, and so easy to use, even Sheps petrol sniffing neibours can use one

[31zook]

I would buy brand name gas/gasless mig. Nothing like having all your junk apart and the welder won't lay a bead

[Ridge]

a mig with gas, will give a cleaner weld then the gasless wire. Im using gasless wire now and its not that bad, much easier then using a stick.

have a look for a proper welding supply shop, they will be able to do a better price and service then supercheap.

[Lockie666]

I find mig welding alot harder than arc welding, you have to worry about wire speed and current. Whenever I'm using it the wire always gets stuck half way through a weld. Arc welding is pretty much a no brainer and much easyer to see what you are welding. I've heard Arc welding is better for steel beacuse it fuses the metal together at a really high temperature causing it to bond better once cooled down...

I'm a bit of a welding noob though, I need more experiance...

[matty87]

its better for welding galvanized stuff too when you cant clean it up.

[shakes]

Lockie666 wrote:

I find mig welding alot harder than arc welding, you have to worry about wire speed and current. Whenever I'm using it the wire always gets stuck half way through a weld. Arc welding is pretty much a no brainer and much easyer to see what you are welding. I've heard Arc welding is better for steel beacuse it fuses the metal together at a really high temperature causing it to bond better once cooled down...

I'm a bit of a welding noob though, I need more experiance...

In my little bit of experience you will learn to weld much better with an arc welder to start with, as it's much easier to see a good weld.

[Joe]

Lockie666 wrote:

I find mig welding alot harder than arc welding, you have to worry about wire speed and current. Whenever I'm using it the wire always gets stuck half way through a weld. Arc welding is pretty much a no brainer and much easyer to see what you are welding. I've heard Arc welding is better for steel beacuse it fuses the metal together at a really high temperature causing it to bond better once cooled down...

I'm a bit of a welding noob though, I need more experiance...

Just keep practising with ya brothers welder, you'll get the hang of it