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MacDaddy

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Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 10453 Location: Perth, Australia
Vehicle: Jeep
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 Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 6:15 pm |
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I went to a key cutter, to get a spare ignition key made, mine only came with one key when i bought it... but the guy took one look at the key and said he cant do it, its micro-chipped...
Do Zooks come with a Mirochip in the ignition key, and if so, when did they do this, and in what model and year ?
All i want is a spare key for my 2001 GV... would a locksmith be a better option ? 
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flatcat_auz

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Joined: Tue Oct 05, 2010 6:06 am Posts: 154 Location: Nth of Syd.
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My local locksmith couldn't do it. Commodores, Ford and all others OK. Suzuki................it's something to do with whatever (microchip) that's in the key.
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bohuler

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Joined: Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:18 am Posts: 1376 Location: Avonsleigh, Victoria
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Your best bet if its a GV is a 28 ounce hammer. Best ever car entry device ever invented 
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zook37
Joined: Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 124 Location: Bundaberg
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Any GV after 2000 had the Microshipped keys mate.
I just managed to avoid it with my 99. 
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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They just don't want to replace a $300 key if they fudge the cut.....
Even if they do cut it, you will need to get it programed to the ecu/immob
 That help?? 
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basketcase
Joined: Fri Sep 22, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 242
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 Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 8:19 pm |
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All non commercial cars have had transponder keys for the last decade or so. Most commercial would have them now too. You may not just need the key cut but also programmed to the cars computer with a diagnostic machine. Some that have an eprom chip can be copied in house, ie commodore. But most need the diagnostic machine plugged into the car and programmed in. If you had more than one other key they would need to be present at the same time as well because usually the original key information gets wiped in the process and then new ones get reprogrammed with the old ones.
Give Locksmith Supply Company (they are the distributors for AD100's, the diagnostic machines) a call in perth they will put you on a to a good locksmith that can do the job right. Its not as simple as some people think, dodgy locksmiths can easily fuck it up and will charge you for the wasted key.
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MacDaddy

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Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 10453 Location: Perth, Australia
Vehicle: Jeep
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 Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:41 am |
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Oh Bugger, thats not what i wanted to hear...
Does anybody know what the micro-chiped keys look like, as mine only has a small half circle bit of black plastic at the end, i wouldnt have thought it would be big enough for a chip, but there you go... the key also came with a small metal tag with a 4 digit number on it, dont know what that is for... maybe i should give Suzuki Aust an email, just to clarify this, and ask them how i can get a spare key made... 
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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What yr's yours??
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:52 am |
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steak_knife wrote: What yr's yours??
Don't wory, just read...
Can you post a pic of the key?? Did the car come with a remote??
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boostedbrick

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Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:44 am Posts: 2003 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 2018 DMAX
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Suzuki should be able to program keys, for a chunk of cash. And the chips are small, the rfid chips are the size of a grain of rice..
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gregdixon

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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1017 Location: Perth
Vehicle: 2004 SQ625 GV
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 Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 11:07 am |
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If yours is the black key without the buttons on it there is no transponder. It has a seperate remote which can be purchased from suzistore same as my 99 gv. the 04 gv has the buttons on the key and a big S on the back not sure what year they changed them but must of been after 01 and before 04.
If you want me to get a pick of them both let me know.
I chased prices for a spare key on the 04 but it was around $300 so instead i told her not to loose them 
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shabz

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Joined: Sun May 03, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 646 Location: Melbourne
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MacBear wrote: . the key also came with a small metal tag with a 4 digit number on it, dont know what that is for... maybe i should give Suzuki Aust an email, just to clarify this, and ask them how i can get a spare key made... 
I'm pretty sure this is mentioned in the owners book - got something to do with if you loose the key, you can quote suzuki the number on that metal tag and they can make up a new key for you
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MacDaddy

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Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 10453 Location: Perth, Australia
Vehicle: Jeep
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 Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 1:41 pm |
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gregdixon wrote: If yours is the black key without the buttons on it there is no transponder. It has a seperate remote which can be purchased from suzistore same as my 99 gv. the 04 gv has the buttons on the key and a big S on the back not sure what year they changed them but must of been after 01 and before 04. If you want me to get a pick of them both let me know. I chased prices for a spare key on the 04 but it was around $300 so instead i told her not to loose them 
Yep its a small black bit with NO buttons, it has a separate remote for Immobiliser and central locking... hmmm ok, this is sounding better... yes please get a pic of them... ha ha.... i only have one key, so if i loose it, i am up shit creek, hence we wanting a spare... hopefully it will be cheaper for a non-transponder key... 
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MacDaddy

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Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 10453 Location: Perth, Australia
Vehicle: Jeep
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 Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 1:50 pm |
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shabz wrote: MacBear wrote: . the key also came with a small metal tag with a 4 digit number on it, dont know what that is for... maybe i should give Suzuki Aust an email, just to clarify this, and ask them how i can get a spare key made...  I'm pretty sure this is mentioned in the owners book - got something to do with if you loose the key, you can quote suzuki the number on that metal tag and they can make up a new key for you
Oh ok, had a quick look in the owners manual, could find anything about the key... that would be excellent if they could do that for me !
Edit : I found the bit about the ignition key, its right at the front, he he... mine is the standard ignition key, not the immobiliser key, so... can i just contact my local Suzuki dealer to get a another key, or should i contact Suzuki Aust ?
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shabz

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Joined: Sun May 03, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 646 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 12:32 pm |
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I'd imagine that any dealer should be able to do that for you!? 
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MacDaddy

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Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 10453 Location: Perth, Australia
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 Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 12:57 pm |
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shabz wrote: I'd imagine that any dealer should be able to do that for you!? 
Cool... i bet they will charge like a wounded bull as well 
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 12:59 pm |
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if its just a normal key, go to a locksmith.
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MacDaddy

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Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 10453 Location: Perth, Australia
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 Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 1:13 pm |
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atari4x4 wrote: if its just a normal key, go to a locksmith.
Yep, i think i will try the Local Locksmith first, just to see if he can and will cut me a spare, or tell me i need to get it from Suzuki... 
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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 Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 1:18 pm |
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a proper locksmith will be able to sort it, the kid at bunnings will be able to do it but i wouldn't let him cut a sandwich, let alone a key 
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MacDaddy

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Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 10453 Location: Perth, Australia
Vehicle: Jeep
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 Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 3:07 pm |
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atari4x4 wrote: a proper locksmith will be able to sort it, the kid at bunnings will be able to do it but i wouldn't let him cut a sandwich, let alone a key 
Yeah i will go to a proper locksmith... i know what you mean  thats if you can actually get one of them to help you... 
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