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chris_mac
Joined: Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 283 Location: Sydney
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G'day
i managed to snap my traction bar after 1 year of use. it was a kit from here:
http://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/sky-bolt ... -3784.html
broken parts, below. i couldn't find that broken part which fell off. it's somewhere along the track...
it's easy fix, i just need a new pipe cut off bracket and that end where bush sits and get it welded to the new pipe.
my problem is i can't find a piece of pipe with 32mm inside diameter. that piece which slide inside bigger (broken) pipe has 32mm outside diameter. i've been in few shops and they have 32NB pipes, but they way to big (inside diameter is not 32mm as nominal bore size 32NB would suggest)
my question:
has anyone know a steel supplier in Sydney i could source pipe of that size, or two different pipes where one fits tight into another?
I know people are making track bars, and they have those two different size pipes required for the job.
thanks a lot in advance.
i'm going for holiday soon and need to fix that quickly
kris
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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can you get the dimensions of the remaining bit? it might be tube not pipe
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chris_mac
Joined: Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 283 Location: Sydney
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 Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:30 am |
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royce wrote: can you get the dimensions of the remaining bit? it might be tube not pipe
i'll get it tomorrow. i'm at work now.
its 32mm inside diameter and about 3mm thick walls from memory, so around 38-39mm outside diameter. i expect it being imperial.
what is the difference between tube and pipe?
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S13RR4
Joined: Sat Aug 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1072 Location: Sunshine Coast
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tube is solid.
Pipe is hollow...
I think
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mondo
Joined: Wed Dec 29, 2010 10:18 pm Posts: 481 Location: Jimboomba
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tube is hollow 
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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pipe is identified by a nominal bore and schedule that really dont mean anything compared to their real size
tube is identified by its real measured OD and wall thickness, both imperial and metric
If the wall is a whole mm measurement and not like 3.2 its tube, no pipe is a full mm wall thickness
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9715 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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 Chris i can get some DOM pipe for you, Alot of sizes, no seam. From peformance metals in sth windsor.
And i can fix it!! (at work)
frreeeeee labour
Just need to buy zee tube
Give it to me.
Mcwilly had the exact same problem with his "sky" trackbar..( i didnt fix it i think he did a warranty claim?)
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Last edited by BlueSuzy on Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:43 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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BlueSuzy wrote: Chris i can get some DOM pipe for you, Alot of sizes, no seam. From peformance metals in sth windsor.
Thats where I buy my CDS and molly from 
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9715 Location: NSW
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Thats where my arm material is from
I deal with Stuart, Nice bloke.
This sky shit seems to be a design fault...1st pics. When the bar is extended, it forces the end tube only, to flex, and snap at the end of the weld acting as a weak point from the leaverage. Last pic is stronger, and will share the twist load.

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chris_mac
Joined: Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 283 Location: Sydney
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BlueSuzy wrote: 8) Chris i can get some DOM pipe for you, Alot of sizes, no seam. From peformance metals in sth windsor.
And i can fix it!! (at work)
frreeeeee labour Just need to buy zee tube
Give it to me.
Mcwilly had the exact same problem with his "sky" trackbar..( i didnt fix it i think he did a warranty claim?)
thanks, PM sent Tim
i can't see the point of warranty claim just for the broken pipe, i would have to pay for shipping cost, probably more than the prize of steal tube here
i wonder, if i lengthen the tubes making them stronger, what can break next? hopefully not diff housing
sketch with dimensions (only phone photo):

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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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I had a quick look at a chart today, 32nb extra strong (or Schedule 80) pipe will give you a 32.5mm ID, will be only available in seamless
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chris_mac
Joined: Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 283 Location: Sydney
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royce wrote: I had a quick look at a chart today, 32nb extra strong (or Schedule 80) pipe will give you a 32.5mm ID, will be only available in seamless
thanks royce, what means schedule 80?
i worked for a while for plumbers and they used that name for a pressure, but plastic pipes. similar to abs pipes
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:49 am |
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dunno, but its thicker than standard weight (schedule 40)
its about 4.8mm wall
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shane1992

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Joined: Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:09 am Posts: 782 Location: Wollongong
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Anyone wanna make me a trackbar ? 
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chris_mac
Joined: Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 283 Location: Sydney
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royce wrote: dunno, but its thicker than standard weight (schedule 40)  its about 4.8mm wall
in that case it may mean "heavy duty" application, thicker walls, or pressure pipe
Bluesuzy will look for these pipes for me at his steel supplier. 
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MART
Joined: Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 282 Location: Sydney
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I work with this pipe all the time , I'll see if I have some Cheers Paul.
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chris_mac
Joined: Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 283 Location: Sydney
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MART wrote: I work with this pipe all the time , I'll see if I have some Cheers Paul.
thanks Paul
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MART
Joined: Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 282 Location: Sydney
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 Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:16 am |
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I have a piece which is 32 mm inside , which is a schedule 80 , 32nb pipe , it is galvanised , if you want it it's free , you will have to pick it up , it's just over a metre long , PM if interested , Cheers Paul
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chris_mac
Joined: Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 283 Location: Sydney
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 Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 9:09 am |
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MART wrote: I have a piece which is 32 mm inside , which is a schedule 80 , 32nb pipe , it is galvanised , if you want it it's free , you will have to pick it up , it's just over a metre long , PM if interested , Cheers Paul
thanks a lot Paul for pipe, Tim will fix track bar for me and I'll be back off road
cheers guys
kris
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MART
Joined: Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 282 Location: Sydney
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