[SuziBlu]

Yea Kenn, try them, then tell me, I have never driven anything, nothing at all other than my first car, my suzi, and she is on claws, so I have no idea what im talking about, as Steve says.

Maybe I should listen to him, as he is the all knowing Suzi god, no one knows bar him.

[alien]

http://www.ivillage.com/5-ways-solve-an ... 4-a-283708

[SuziBlu]

alien wrote:

http://www.ivillage.com/5-ways-solve-any-relationship-problem-0/4-a-283708

[kenn]

Gwagensteve wrote:

Tried less aggressive tyres on sand though Kenn?

There's a big difference between being happy with the performance of a tyre in an environment and it being the tyre you'd recommend to someone who wasn't really going to do anything else.

I'm perfectly happy with the performance of Swampers on road, but I'd never recommend them to someone as a road tyre.

Steve.

Yes my 2000 model GV on standard road tyres at Robe SA. (needed a push to get off the beach at one stage), My Jimny on Bridgestone allterrains at Portland Vic. (No problem) and I'm not recommending anything, just imparting my own experience's so people can make there own informed decisions based on a larger pool of information than just what you say.

[kenn]

Oh and Steve I vaguely remember you sitting in my passenger seat on the bottom of the Murray river when it was dry, telling me that my mud tyres (31"Kelly safari DTRs) were going to bog down in the soft sand especially if i took off to quickly , but all they did was throw big rooster tails and launch us in a forward direction. That was a fun trip.

[monley]

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[] -Then add diff breathers, recovery gear, maybe a UHF CB for club trips.

Then a quality compressor and tyre gauge/deflator.

Maybe a swap to sierra free wheeling hubs to remove the troublesome front vacuum engaged hubs.

FOR the OP!

That's what i would do, then wheels it, see what you need, I would say, lift and some tyres then go from there with other mods.

Also i don't think the vacuum hubs need to be swaped, for free wheeling hubs IMO, i have never had a issue with mine, nor have i heard/read of any one have issues with them.


And for steve i would take my Bridgestone M/T DUALERS for sand work over the stock road tyres any day.

[Rockhopper]

I see valid points to both sides of the tyres argument. I've only ever had mud terrains an all my 4by's but the one I'm driving now so I don't know by personal experience. On one hand though, if you were using smooth tyres on sand, on an underpowered car, you could easily keep the revs up to the torque band. The car might be sliding over the top of sand, but it won't bog down and stall. On the other hand, mud terrains do dig in and grip in the sand, meaning less sliding and more chance of bogging down.
I found on my Sierra with Mickey Thomson MTZ's with 8psi, low range transfer case in high range and the bog standard 1.3 litre engine, it went everywhere I pointed it on sand, and I reckon thats because of the shear light weight of the car. My first Patrol however, with the underpowered rb30 motor in it, in low range, used to get bogged at every oppertunity on sand

[vermin]

From my own personal and limited experience with my Jimny.

I bought BFG ATS and didn't like em in the sand - kept getting wheel spin and partially bogged.

Not too long after I bought BFG MTS and it made a seriously noticeable difference. I am led to think that zooks are too light for a slicker wheel pattern and needs some bite to get going.

Never been bogged in sand - even Lancelin stuff since going to muddies.

I always go to about 7psi in sand.