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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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Hey all... my diffs doing a nice thud when i let the clutch out, its definitely gotten worse over the last few weeks and happens in any gear if i let the clutch out medium/fast.
Grabbing the rear tailshaft theres a ton of play in the pinion, and jacking the rear in the air i can move the wheels slightly left/right and up/down, only very slightly, but when i do it clearly moves the axle (can hear it).
Rear diff hasnt been touched for 4 years since it had an airlocker installed, unis are new and no play.
Anyone got a diagnosis for me before i take it in on monday to get a proper opinion? (ie: strip it down).
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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any bearing that moves in the rear is rooted
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Mistaria81
Joined: Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 175 Location: mango hill, Queensland
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bearings be fooked, take it to a diff specialist and get the to check it compleatley.
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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 Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:44 am |
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hope so - i'd rather it be a bearing than anything with teeth... im afraid its a worn crownwheel...
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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st1ll a b1g j0b
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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 Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:46 am |
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Follow up question - if i baby it (gentle on the clutch) is it going to survive doing 100km/hr for 45 mins, then about 3-5 hrs of low range crawling, then another 45mins of 100km/hr? before i take it in on monday? =)
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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 Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:51 am |
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haha you should know that the only way to find out is to have a go.
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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i plan to =) its been doing the clunk for ages now so i can't see it failing catastrophically on me (famous last words?)
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CompTruck
Joined: Mon Sep 21, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 299 Location: brisbane northside
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if its from the gears - might break em on your trip
if its from bearings - probably be ok
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Lockie666

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Joined: Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 1874 Location: Perth
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 Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 9:11 am |
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If the bearing is rooted, then the pre-load on the bearing will effect the backlash between the crownwheel and pinion. I wouldn't drive it Arron, you're going to fruck it good and fast.
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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when you say fruck it... am i going to do more damage than whats already been done? =)
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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alien wrote: when you say fruck it... am i going to do more damage than whats already been done? =)
if a diff bearing collapses it will more likely then not take out the crown wheel and pinion as well.
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Lockie666

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Joined: Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 1874 Location: Perth
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You could chip teeth off the crownwheel, the pinon and crownwheel are going to mesh wrong. I wouldn't risk screwing my airlocker for a few days driving.
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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bugggerrrrr... hmmm.
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worldo

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Joined: Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 573 Location: coffs harbour
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Mine does this wear would I get new bearings. Im about to fit spartan locker so might as well do bearings. Anyone got a write up on changinv bearings?
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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 Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 10:13 am |
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how long has yours been doing it for? lol
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Lockie666

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Joined: Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 1874 Location: Perth
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worldo wrote: Mine does this wear would I get new bearings. Im about to fit spartan locker so might as well do bearings. Anyone got a write up on changinv bearings? if you need to ask then I don't think you should be attempting a spartan. Haha, you are gunna need a puller to get the carrier bearings off.
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zooky08

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 Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 10:29 am |
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My rear diff did the same as you explained
I drove over 6 months like it was, but was no heavy 4wding neither did I have big tyres like yours
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worldo

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Joined: Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 573 Location: coffs harbour
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Bout 3 weeks ago it started becoming noticable. No one in coffs wants to do my locker as they keep tellin me there dodgy. So no choice but to have a crack.
Im no mechanic but the old man is pretty good at it and a mates a mechanic sure
We can figure it out.
Lockie we have a bearing puller.
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smiffkid

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Joined: Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:55 pm Posts: 3266 Location: perth wa
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just baby it, check the oil for a start,
if its a bearing it could collapse which means removing the rear shaft and driving it 4wd worst comes to worst u breack a tooth other wise its just needs some tlc t
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Lockie666

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Joined: Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 1874 Location: Perth
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smiffkid wrote: just baby it, check the oil for a start, if its a bearing it could collapse which means removing the rear shaft and driving it 4wd worst comes to worst u breack a tooth other wise its just needs some tlc t This is the worst advice someone can give. The diff will be spinning regardless of there being a tailshaft or not. Please refrain from talking shit. Arron, just get it fixed mate, you will end up blowing your diff. You don't want to blow your diff on the road and having your rear lock up on the road. Its not cheap getting another center, pinon, crownwheel. You also run risk of fucking the housing too... Just expressing my opinion
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
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hooki

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Joined: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1785 Location: perth, WA
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ajsr

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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 3712 Location: melb
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smiffkid wrote: just baby it, check the oil for a start, if its a bearing it could collapse which means removing the rear shaft and driving it 4wd worst comes to worst u breack a tooth other wise its just needs some tlc t
for a bloke who is supposed to works in a 4x4 workshop/store you know sweet fuck all about cars.
dont listen to noob boy, the inside end of the axle is supported by your diff bearings. so if you blow the diff the axle isnt going to turn real well is it.
dont baby it because they always break at the best times just fixit while its still relitively cheap
edit: I see someone else X 3 have said the same thing. just fix it
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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Mines been clunking and whining for 50000km, bearings can handle a fair amount of abuse 
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
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 Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 10:51 pm |
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My front is the same as yours alien. I'm swapping a new one in today!
But i'm lucky its in the front..
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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 Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:43 am |
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ok so i drove on the weekend and went 4wding for this photoshoot i had planned, just took it easy and babied the diff (rode the clutch a little more). Went fine all day, very proud of my sierra given what i've just found out!
diff was stripped today and so far my damage list is:
- 1 rear wheel bearing (replacing both obviously)
- both rear axles (short side is twisted and fractured, long side is fractured)
- diff bearings are a combination of buggered and on their way
- replaced rear shoes while its all out
will update if anything else is discovered by the diff specialist =)
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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suzistore do my diffs, much cheaper and better than other diff shops in perth, at least u know an apprentice isn peicing it together too 
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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 Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:07 am |
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haha nar mines being done by a pro, and he knows airlockers very well... he is also cost effective.
Sean (suzistore) is on holidays for a week so suzistore wasnt an option.
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SierraDan

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i do my own 
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