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supa_slim

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Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:15 am Posts: 444 Location: Redbank Plains
Vehicle: 85.Ruf. rear air locker
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 Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 11:47 am |
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Hey guys
Does any one know what this problem is ?? my brakes are soft but when u pump them they go hard.
I have bleed them several times but it doesnt help at all
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Highway-Star
Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4109 Location: Ipswich
Vehicle: LJ80V-II (a proper Stockman)
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supa_slim wrote: Hey guys Does any one know what this problem is ?? my brakes are soft but when u pump them they go hard.
I have bleed them several times but it doesnt help at all
Leak in the braking system?
My LJ80 did this after I first got it running. Eventually had the master cylinder rebuilt as it was drawing in air through it.
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joel
Joined: Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2191 Location: Dirranbandi
Vehicle: Sj70 tintop
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 Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 11:58 am |
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maybe master cylinder? but a leak sounds likely.
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supa_slim

az supporter
Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:15 am Posts: 444 Location: Redbank Plains
Vehicle: 85.Ruf. rear air locker
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 Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 12:00 pm |
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Great that will be fun to find
Do u think it would be the master cylinder
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joe5701
Joined: Mon May 30, 2011 7:43 am Posts: 241 Location: narromine
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 Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 12:02 pm |
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supa_slim

az supporter
Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:15 am Posts: 444 Location: Redbank Plains
Vehicle: 85.Ruf. rear air locker
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 Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 12:05 pm |
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Yeah i am not a lot but
I think i comes out of the filler cap though
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joel
Joined: Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2191 Location: Dirranbandi
Vehicle: Sj70 tintop
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 Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 12:05 pm |
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supa_slim wrote: Great that will be fun to find
Do u think it would be the master cylinder
if your not losing fluid, thats what i would start looking at, but im far from an expert on brakes...... or much at all. lol.
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supa_slim

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Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:15 am Posts: 444 Location: Redbank Plains
Vehicle: 85.Ruf. rear air locker
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 Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 12:08 pm |
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Ive check under the car to see if i could see any leaks but i cant see any
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joe5701
Joined: Mon May 30, 2011 7:43 am Posts: 241 Location: narromine
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 Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 12:11 pm |
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I would think if it was leaking bad enough to feel it in the pedal you would be topping up the res daily.
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supa_slim

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Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:15 am Posts: 444 Location: Redbank Plains
Vehicle: 85.Ruf. rear air locker
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 Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 12:13 pm |
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So do u guys think it is the master cylinder then
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Highway-Star
Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4109 Location: Ipswich
Vehicle: LJ80V-II (a proper Stockman)
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 Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 12:14 pm |
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Other common place to check would be your drum brake slave cylinders on the back. Just pull the drums off, and see if there is any sign of a leak in there.
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joe5701
Joined: Mon May 30, 2011 7:43 am Posts: 241 Location: narromine
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 Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 12:15 pm |
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keep the handbrake adjusted up and you will be fine 
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joe5701
Joined: Mon May 30, 2011 7:43 am Posts: 241 Location: narromine
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 Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 12:16 pm |
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supa_slim wrote: So do u guys think it is the master cylinder then
good chance, but check it all out to be sure 
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supa_slim

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Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:15 am Posts: 444 Location: Redbank Plains
Vehicle: 85.Ruf. rear air locker
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 Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 12:18 pm |
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Ok ill do that highway star
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 1:13 pm |
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clamp off 1 soft line at a time, that will help you locate problem.
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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whenever my brakes get spongy my rear shoes are low on meat... i go through rear shoes about every 6-9months!
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
Vehicle: G13BB Jimny
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alien wrote: whenever my brakes get spongy my rear shoes are low on meat... i go through rear shoes about every 6-9months!
x2 I just had the same issue and got new shoes and the problem was sorted.. Check rear shoes.
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supa_slim

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Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:15 am Posts: 444 Location: Redbank Plains
Vehicle: 85.Ruf. rear air locker
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 Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 8:57 pm |
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I changed mine about 7 months ago
I'll have a look tonight
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S_M_I_D_D_Y
Joined: Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:07 am Posts: 20 Location: Newcastle
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 Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:16 am |
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Having similar problem, my zook had soft brakes which got harder if you pumped the pedal a few times, one time last drive after a steep downhill they felt very touchy and firm like they should, that went away pretty quickly though. they are not leaking fluid anywhere, and i had it parked for 2 weeks and then fitted new pads on weekend in front end so pressed the caliper piston back and now they wanna go to the floor first touch you can pump them up and they feel better but soon as u drive the pedal goes to floor again. if you pump the pedal it feels like the engine wants to stall when idling. i have bled them twice now with no success.
any ideas??
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
Vehicle: G13BB Jimny
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 Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:18 am |
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S_M_I_D_D_Y wrote: Having similar problem, my zook had soft brakes which got harder if you pumped the pedal a few times, one time last drive after a steep downhill they felt very touchy and firm like they should, that went away pretty quickly though. they are not leaking fluid anywhere, and since last weekend i had it parked for 2 weeks and then fitted new pads in front end so pressed the caliper piston back and now they wanna go to the floor first touch you can pump them up and they feel better but soon as u drive the pedal goes to floor again. if you pump the pedal it feels like the engine wants to stall when idling. i have bled them twice now with no success.
any ideas??
rear brakes shoes. is the handbrake shit too?
when ya comin' over!! 
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S_M_I_D_D_Y
Joined: Tue Jul 12, 2011 7:07 am Posts: 20 Location: Newcastle
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gday mate. yep well im tearing rear diff apart tomorrow, so will check those out then. just waiting on the mrs to turn up and ill head out
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supa_slim

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Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:15 am Posts: 444 Location: Redbank Plains
Vehicle: 85.Ruf. rear air locker
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 Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:43 am |
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HaD a look at the rear brake shoes Tonight and they are rotted..
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
Vehicle: G13BB Jimny
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 Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:38 am |
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yay!
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