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worldo

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Joined: Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 573 Location: coffs harbour
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 Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 7:23 am |
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hey quick question and yeah i searched first.
is 1 1/4 tube to small to build an internal cage out of?
i dont plan on doing anything stupid to use it but will be mounting uhf & rear speakers on.
the pipe bender i borrowed of bogga only goes to 1 1/4 thats why i would like to use this size.
cheers ricky
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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 Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 7:40 am |
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Yes. Too small. MOst commonly used is 1.75" or 32NB. CAMS, ANDRA, CCDA etc allow a few different sized tubes to be used, but it would be a very minimal part of the cage that is allowed to use 1.25" tube. All main sections of the cage will be 1.75" or larger.
Having said that, I have seen a few cages with 32NB B-pillar and rear section, and 25NB (1.25") front section to aid with clearance around the dash etc.
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Zook_Fan

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Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4531 Location: Toowoomba
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 Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:06 am |
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Buy a good 1 3/4 die for it and make it all out of that if you only want to use one size. Better off with overkill than under when it comes to safety
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worldo

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Joined: Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 573 Location: coffs harbour
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 Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:23 am |
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So if I use the 1 1/4 beside dash then notch it at top and use 1 3/4 for the rest.
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Zook_Fan

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 Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:28 am |
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Personally I'd use 1 3/4 for all of it and bigger for the main hoop but if you have to choose just one for everything in the bigger sizes go 1 3/4. It fits down between the dash and the door, just dints the door a little bit and it is tight to close the first few times. You get use to it quick.
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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^^^^ I agree.
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:32 am |
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Are you sure its a 1.25" tube die or an 1.25" pipe die?
if its a pipe die the OD of the stuff is really 42.4mm
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Fatzook

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royce wrote: Are you sure its a 1.25" tube die or an 1.25" pipe die?
if its a pipe die the OD of the stuff is really 42.4mm
Are you suggesting he has a 32NB die? I wasn't aware that the DIES were sized by internal bore ( as pipe is) 
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worldo

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Joined: Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 573 Location: coffs harbour
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 Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 11:09 am |
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Just checked bendsr its a plumbers mate bender for bending gas steam and plumbing pipes. And the only number on it are 1/2 up to 1 1/4 I think bit dark out there
Does this help?
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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worldo wrote: Just checked bendsr its a plumbers mate bender for bending gas steam and plumbing pipes. And the only number on it are 1/2 up to 1 1/4 I think bit dark out there
Does this help?
For bending water pipe then. Can you measure across the opening of the die and get a rough size?
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worldo

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 Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 11:19 am |
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inside lip to inside lip is bout 42mm on the biggest one. Still dont know what this all means im going to use 1 3/4 tube for the cage.
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Fatzook

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worldo wrote: inside lip to inside lip is bout 42mm on the biggest one. Still dont know what this all means im going to use 1 3/4 tube for the cage.
It is as Royce said then. Thats roughly 1.75" OD. So use that die. But you will need to buy pipe, not tube!
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worldo

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Ok sweet thanks heaps.
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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Fatzook wrote: royce wrote: Are you sure its a 1.25" tube die or an 1.25" pipe die?
if its a pipe die the OD of the stuff is really 42.4mm Are you suggesting he has a 32NB die? I wasn't aware that the DIES were sized by internal bore ( as pipe is) 
Dies are marked to suit the material, so a die for 1 1/4" / 32nb pipe will say that rather than 42.4mm OD which will confuse all the meathead waterpipe fitters around
Worldo like Fatty said, make sure you have pipe not tube as the fit in the die is critical, might I suggest you go to a Metaland and ask for OZTUBE (confusing I know) Circular Hollow Section in 32nb Medium wall. This will get you an Australian product designed for structural applications and not too dear
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Fatzook

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royce wrote: might I suggest you go to a Metaland and ask for OZTUBE (confusing I know) Circular Hollow Section in 32nb Medium wall. This will get you an Australian product designed for structural applications and not too dear
X2. Really nice product. I use this to make my 80 series tube sliders. It bends very nicely 
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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yep, we used it for Dads 6 point a month or two ago.
much nicer than so other black steel we used previously
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