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fix8ed
Joined: Wed Aug 31, 2011 4:49 am Posts: 24 Location: Morisset NSW
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Hey guys i just bought a 92 mod sierra 1.3ltr and it has a 96 Transfer,
Ive been told that you can not get reduction gears to suit this transfer.
Just wondering if anyone knows if this is true and if not where can i get them.
if you cant get them ill just look out for an original transfer.
cheers.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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If it is a gear drive transfer case there are no problems. 1996 was the change over year. the chain drive coil case isn't a straight swap so you'd have to be keen to screw up the gearing of a WT to bother with a coil case in one.
If the shift pattern is like this:
Then it's a gear drive case, and you are sweet for gears.
The coil shift pattern is straight though (it's not a J shape)
Steve.
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fix8ed
Joined: Wed Aug 31, 2011 4:49 am Posts: 24 Location: Morisset NSW
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 Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 8:57 am |
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Awsome thanks heaps for that mine has the J pattern.
The guy i bought it off said it was the 96 chain driven transfer but i guess not.
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stockman

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Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 5319 Location: Canberra
Vehicle: 4wd
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 Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:00 am |
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Did you shift through the case?
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
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stockman wrote: Did you shift through the case? X2 they could of put the original transfercase stick knob back on
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fix8ed
Joined: Wed Aug 31, 2011 4:49 am Posts: 24 Location: Morisset NSW
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 Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:03 am |
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yer its def the j pattern, this is my first zook so i dont know much about em.
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
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 Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:09 am |
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u sure about that shift pattern steve? cbzook is a coiler transfer and it is a J pattern. and im 99% sure mine was to before i got gears.
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tobeszook

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Joined: Sun Sep 26, 2010 7:38 am Posts: 453 Location: Drysdale Vic
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my 97 coily has the j pattern it had work done when i bought it, so i don't know if it is original or not.
i hope its a leaffy case ...more info boys !
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:16 am |
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I'm 99.99% sure the pattern is different from the Leaf - it doesn't have a neutral or somehting? Hmmm - I used to have a coil case here but I threw it out.
Sorry if I've misled anyone - I was sure there was a difference.
Steve
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fix8ed
Joined: Wed Aug 31, 2011 4:49 am Posts: 24 Location: Morisset NSW
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 Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:17 am |
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yer is there another way to check, without pulling it apart of course
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
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 Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:22 am |
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yep the shape.... hold on give me a few min i have a pic in my photo bucket.......
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:23 am |
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Should be able to tell them apart from this:
Coil sierra case, viewed from above:
Leaf sierra case, viewed from above
The coil case is much skinnier through the middle (between the input and outputs) as there's only a chain between them.
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
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ok that didnt take as long as i thought
left is coiler
right is leafy
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:27 am |
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Jonno - the leaf transfer in your pic is a non-4WD light case (early 1.0) It looks quite different to a later case.
Steve
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
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Gwagensteve wrote: Jonno - the leaf transfer in your pic is a non-4WD light case (early 1.0) It looks quite different to a later case.
Steve
your right... however for the purpose of the pic it works..
also notice it was in my coiler for about a year... useing wt shafts and all.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:32 am |
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jonno_racing wrote: also notice it was in my coiler for about a year... useing wt shafts and all.
Someone did some trick work to make the flanges work then
Steve.
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
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 Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:35 am |
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Gwagensteve wrote: jonno_racing wrote: also notice it was in my coiler for about a year... useing wt shafts and all. Someone did some trick work to make the flanges work then  Steve.
yeah apparently a prev owner of the case was doing a mashinest course at tafe, so he built custom flanges as a project! got top marks 2.. a member on this form still owns the case!
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fix8ed
Joined: Wed Aug 31, 2011 4:49 am Posts: 24 Location: Morisset NSW
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 Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:36 am |
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cheers guys i will have a look tomorrow.
if i could buy you a beer i would!
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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 Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:42 am |
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hehe flange.
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koozers
Joined: Fri Feb 25, 2011 5:24 am Posts: 77 Location: wa
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alien wrote: hehe flange.
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fix8ed
Joined: Wed Aug 31, 2011 4:49 am Posts: 24 Location: Morisset NSW
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 Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 2:56 am |
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So have checked and it is the chain drive transfer with the J pattern,
So now wondering if they would of had to change much to do this, im thinking of just buying a Gear drive transfer and changing it back so i can get the reduction gears or does anyone have a better idea.
I really need the reduction gears and im running 31's n the thing goes like a dog.
Cheers guys.
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Reubs
Joined: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1522 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SJ80, SE416
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 Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 4:47 am |
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To clear up, all sierra transfers had a 'J-Pattern' shift.
To interchange the coily and WT transfers, the jackshaft, and the case itself changes.
The mounts transfer are the same. The 4x4 light plug is the same. The coily case is a little slimmer at the top so the jackshaft length changes. The flange holes on the coily case are tapped. The flanges on the WT case have holes for a bolt and nut.
Oh and maybe the shift knob gets a little prettier with the coily case as well LOL.
If you get a WT jackshaft you should be able to change over the case in a couple of hours easily. The gearing will improve also and your speedo should become more accurate - the stock WT case has lower gears as the coily has 3.9 ratio diffs instead of 3.7.
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