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Post Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 5:25 am 
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I will be filling in top left, and top right ends, but I am wondering if you guys think this will work? If needed I will put plate in between the rod and the axle housing.

Thoughts on the design? does it suck, or will it work?

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Post Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 5:26 am 
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Oh yeah, the bottom perches will come off, I am spring over, I left them on for support while I am welding.

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Post Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 5:49 am 
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I have been thinking of doing something similar to my diffs. Whenever i have seen something like that, they are always plated. For my rear diff, i want to have trac bar mounts built into the truss. I wouldn't have the bar below the diff, it may get caught on stuff.

oozuk used C channel to truss the under side of his diffs. It doesn't hang down much at all.

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Post Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 5:58 am 
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It is cold rolled solid stock 1" I used solid stock because I also used it for knuckle braces.
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Post Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:01 am 
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As in solid 1" rod?

Holy crap that's serious!

Couldn't you plate from the inside of the rods to the housing to make it super strong?

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Post Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:05 am 
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the issue might be that with a hard whack you might just crack a weld and bend it anyway - unlikely but possible. i'd just put some small triangle gussets in place at the joins.

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Post Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:10 am 
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Edited the above message to show the top brace too.

So do you think a triangle gusset would work, or just a plate under the whole thing?

Cracking the welds is on of my worries. I just picked up a front auto locker and chromo's. One of the main problems is ending the housing and stuffing the locker/hub/shafts all at once. I want to try to avoid that.

Of course a little bit of air time is not unheard of either :mrgreen:

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Post Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:16 am 
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How does this look, or would triangle gussets at the joins be better?

I have looked at it so long I am about to say stuff it, and buy some of those low range trusses.
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Post Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:25 am 
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solid will be stronger than gusset every time... i onyl suggested triangle gussets cos i assumed you wanted it to look open.

now you just have to weld it on without warping the housing =D

dont forget to leave space for your spring plates too.

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Post Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:34 am 
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Thanks for the advice guys. I know about suspensions engines etc.., but nothing about metal and structural stuff. I just want to do this once and have it hold up no matter how hard I am on it. I tired to get the known weak spots.

I really like the open look, but I suppose strength has to trump looks , bummer hey :oops:

If you notice the top of the housing, the left side hasn't been braced yet. There is absolutely no room for a brace there with the spring plate mounted up. I will have to figure out something tricky for that side.

So you figure this will hold up to a decent beating when done?

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now you just have to weld it on without warping the housing =D



hahah I used the cold rolled to make sure the housing was straight when I started..Should saved it for the end when I have to check for true after the welding is done..

weld..stop...drink a beer... weld....for about three days, hiopeully that will keep it straight =)

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Post Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:02 am 
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you dont really need to do both sides anyway. my rear is braced underneath cos theres no room on top, and the front is braced entirely on the top... so i've got more diff clearance at the front than i do the rear.

this shows it quite well:
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Post Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:35 am 
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8) Looks great skyman.... i might jst brace mine like that to, instead of the fully plated way

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Post Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:37 am 
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DAM IF its made in the USA u know its over kill :twisted:
great work Skyman 8)

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Post Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:02 am 
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hey monkey does that ORA kit do between the mount and the knuckle as well? cos you need to make sure you do that too.

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Post Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:15 am 
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alien wrote:
hey monkey does that ORA kit do between the mount and the knuckle as well? cos you need to make sure you do that too.


That's another part of the kit,

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Is that the bit you mean??

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Post Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:19 am 
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yup =) theyre the most important part of the whole thing.

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Post Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 4:02 pm 
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I like the UFO's high steer, you now I have that thread bookmarked.

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Post Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:32 pm 
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suzistore made the hi-steer kit to suit my car... they made a 2nd one while making mine but its not cheap, especially for your inferior US dollar =P

http://www.suzistore.com.au/shopexd.asp?id=1363

it was machined from a solid block of a specific steel my engineer required. then as you can see in the pic of my zuk a bolt drops through the standard steering arm with a spacer to pick that up as well as the caliper bolts. its also around 10mm longer so you get a bit more leverage making the steering lighter to turn =)

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Post Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 10:40 am 
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How did you go with these trusses Mr skyman?

I just finished doing my diff's cus i bent my front one :oops: ....

Here's some pics of the front

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I have also done the rear...but don't have any pics of that yet :oops:

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Post Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 10:59 am 
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That looks nice and strong, how did you bend the first one?

I like the knuckle gussets, but I like the diff guard/reinforcement even better.

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Post Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 11:09 am 
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this is how mine ended up. i have gusseted the knuckels 2.

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Post Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 11:11 am 
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I am almost done shaving mine, used yours and Steve's as kind of guide, thanks for the pics.

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Post Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 11:19 am 
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skyman wrote:
That looks nice and strong, how did you bend the first one?

I like the knuckle gussets, but I like the diff guard/reinforcement even better.


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Post Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 4:19 am 
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My mate braced his pootrol like this and used it as an air tank for his locker.

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Post Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:21 am 
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Rear diff:

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Brake line is in the way of showing of my nice welding :(

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Post Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:31 am 
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Rear diff:
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Brake line is in the way of showing of my nice welding :(


can i ask why you put i bit of armor on the rear of the diff? how often are you moving at high speed in reverse?

but looks good.

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Post Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:38 am 
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Rear diff:
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Brake line is in the way of showing of my nice welding :(


can i ask why you put i bit of armor on the rear of the diff? how often are you moving at high speed in reverse?

but looks good.


You can ask but doesn't mean i will answer your question :lol: .......i got it cus i wanted to make the purchase from ORA worth my while :wink:

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Post Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 12:20 pm 
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i've never bent a rear diff housing, but its easily possible.

you must be glad you had room above the housing, i had no choice and had to gusset the underside of mine, drags on the ground now and then, but its not too bad =)

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Post Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 12:24 pm 
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alien wrote:
i've never bent a rear diff housing, but its easily possible.

you must be glad you had room above the housing, i had no choice and had to gusset the underside of mine, drags on the ground now and then, but its not too bad =)


i cant really think of when you would bend a rear?.....please provide example!

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Post Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 12:27 pm 
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any sort of huge bounce landing 1 rear wheel on the ground before the rest... especially in an uphill climb when the vehicles weight is on the ass end. thats my thoughts anyway...

has anyone bent a rear housing?

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