[bakerboy]

Narva extremes, retro fitted with hid's

[Che]

che_guitarra wrote:

Rather than start a new thread i'll just revive this one.


I'm looking to get a pair of spotties to mount on a roofrack. Wanting a pair of flood lights, not long distance beams - manly to keep an eye on incoming kangaroos when i'm trundling along camping trails.

#1: what's the law with spotties and roofracks - looking around the last couple of days i've seen a couple of jeeps with top mounted spotties, but everything generally seems mounted on a front bar. Is it illegal to have them up high?

#2: if it is legal, what's the best way of getting power up to the roofrack position up considering I have a hardtop (ie - and don't want to drill panel holes unless I have to).

[neofitou]

che_guitarra wrote:

che_guitarra wrote:

Rather than start a new thread i'll just revive this one.


I'm looking to get a pair of spotties to mount on a roofrack. Wanting a pair of flood lights, not long distance beams - manly to keep an eye on incoming kangaroos when i'm trundling along camping trails.

#1: what's the law with spotties and roofracks - looking around the last couple of days i've seen a couple of jeeps with top mounted spotties, but everything generally seems mounted on a front bar. Is it illegal to have them up high?

#2: if it is legal, what's the best way of getting power up to the roofrack position up considering I have a hardtop (ie - and don't want to drill panel holes unless I have to).

Im not sure what the law is in WA but in Vic the requirement is no more than 6 forward facing white lights, so Parkers, Headlights and Spotties and no more. People that put them on their roof rack put the opaque covers on them. I think you would only get busted for them if you were driving around on the road with them on though.

Personally for a roof rack flood I would go an LED light bar, I belive Dank is selling them now.

[Zooka]

I got some IPF's fitted to mine and they work brillant and look great, but that LED bar looks great too lol

[bakerboy]

week or two and i should have my led light bars so ill post up some comparisons and prices ($132us pre shipping and any tax)

[Poita]

Im confused as to what I would need... driving lamps or spot lamps? What's the difference?

I want to light up the road a lot better when country driving to help with visibility and roos. The factory high beam is pretty useless.

I retro fitted my Dad's Light Force XGT spotties with HID and the HID conversion made the stock 100W setup look like a yellow flat torch. So I will be doing a HID conversion whatever setup I get.

[zukenutter]

Poita wrote:

Im confused as to what I would need... driving lamps or spot lamps? What's the difference?

I want to light up the road a lot better when country driving to help with visibility and roos. The factory high beam is pretty useless.

I retro fitted my Dad's Light Force XGT spotties with HID and the HID conversion made the stock 100W setup look like a yellow flat torch. So I will be doing a HID conversion whatever setup I get.

I have one spot and one spread. Best of both worlds.

Try Royce's headlight loom upgrade, probably won't need HID

[neofitou]

I love pulling this Pic out:



1 Guess which one is the HID..

[bakerboy]

Anyone can replicate that photo though, hid or not

[Poita]

No I will definatly be changing the spotlights to hid. After seeing the huge difference they made to dads. I will be getting that loom upgrade as well though as the low beam is useless

[nato78]

che_guitarra wrote:

Rather than start a new thread i'll just tack onto this one.


I'm looking to get a pair of spotties to mount on a roofrack. Wanting a pair of flood lights, not long distance beams - manly to keep an eye on incoming kangaroos when i'm trundling along camping trails.

#1: what's the law with spotties and roofracks - looking around the last couple of days i've seen a couple of jeeps with top mounted spotties, but everything generally seems mounted on a front bar. Is it illegal to have them up high?

#2: if it is legal, what's the best way of getting power up to the roofrack position up considering I have a hardtop (ie - and don't want to drill panel

holes unless I have to).

I'm pretty sure that roof mounted spotties are ok, but you need to have them in pairs, ie you will need to run an even number of lights total, including your front mounted spotties.

As far as wiring, I've seen other guys use the corrugated split cable wrap to tidy things up and run it down the A pillar, or in thru the door opening, the door rubber should be soft enough to deform around it

[TheOtherLeft]

nato78 wrote:

I'm pretty sure that roof mounted spotties are ok

According to who? Because it isn't the RTA. You're not allowed to use roof-mounted spotties on the road.

Lots of people have them on their 4WD's but the Police don't pull them for it. I think if they are disconnected or have covers over the lenses they are OK.

Some of the Jeeps (Cherokee I think) have them built into the front of the roof bars but they are only 20W and have been classed as clearance lights so of no really value to most people.

You could always call them work lights but I think they technically need switches at the lights themselves as well as a switch in the cabin.

[nato78]

This is copied from another forum, nowhere does it say that they are illegal, it seems to be pretty open to interpretation:

According to the Australian Design Rules, Roof-mounted lights are could be legal in relation height, but might be illegal as they aren't at the front of the vehicle.... See reply below from the NSW RTA.

For a vehicle manufactured from October 1991, Australian Design Rule 13/00 dictates how and what type of lights are permitted to be fitted to a vehicle.

This ARD describes a 'Driving Light' as a "Main Beam" headlamp.

As a main beam headlamp it must be fitted:

Maximum number of "main beam" headlamps: 6
Position: outer edges of illuminating surface must be no closer to the outer edge of the vehicle than the outer edge of the "low beam" headlamp.
Height: No individual specifications.
Length: At the front of the vehicle and fitted in such a way that the light emitted doesn't cause discomfort to the driver either directly or indirectly through the rear view mirrors and/or other reflecting surfaces of the vehicle.

The current NSW regulations for the mounting of driving lights on a vehicle
are:

They must be fitted so the outer edge is no closer to the edge of the vehicle than the standard headlamps.

They must be wired into the 'High beam circuit' so the lights can only be operated with the high beam.

The NSW regulations indicate:

Road Transport (Vehicle Registration) Regulation 1998

Schedule 4 Vehicle standards

86 How headlights are to be fitted

(1) The centres of low-beam headlights fitted as a pair on a motor vehicle
with 4 or more wheels must be at least 600 millimetres apart.
(2) However, subclause (1) does not apply to a motor vehicle built before
1970 if the centres of its low-beam headlights:
(a) were under 600 millimetres apart when the vehicle was built, and
(b) are not nearer than they were when the vehicle was built.
(3) Each low-beam headlight of a pair on a motor trike (except a moped)
with 2 front wheels must not be over 400 millimetres from the nearer side of the vehicle.
(4) The centre of a low-beam headlight fitted to a motor vehicle built
after June 1953 must be:
(a) at least 500 millimetres above ground level, and
(b) not over 1.4 metres above ground level.
88 How additional headlights are to be fitted

If 2 or more additional headlights are fitted to a motor vehicle with 4 or
more wheels, the additional headlights must as far as possible be fitted in
pairs.

89 Performance of headlights

(1) When on, a headlight, or additional headlight, fitted to a
vehicle must:
(a) show only white light, and
(b) project its main beam of light ahead of the vehicle.
(2) Headlights must be fitted to a vehicle so their light does not
reflect off the vehicle into the driver's eyes.
90 Effective range of headlights

(1) This clause applies to a headlight that is on at night.
(2) A low-beam headlight must illuminate the road ahead of the
vehicle for at least 25 metres.
(3) A high-beam headlight must illuminate the road ahead of the
vehicle for at least 50 metres.
(4) However, a low-beam headlight fitted to a motor vehicle built
before 1931, or a moped, need only illuminate the road ahead of the vehicle
for 12 metres.


Should you require further information please don't hesitate to reply or
contact Technical Enquiries on 1300 137 302.

Regards

Colin Lambert
RTA
Technical Enquiries