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Post Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:26 pm 
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hi i was thinking the other night has there been anyone thats put a diesel into their vitara? and what engine would you use?

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Post Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:12 pm 
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Search much?

http://www.auszookers.com/index.php?nam ... a&start=30

http://www.auszookers.com/index.php?nam ... sel+vitara

http://www.auszookers.com/index.php?nam ... sel+vitara

There might be one or two out there but that doesn't make it a good idea (or any financial sense.

The info I have indicates the RF mazda engines are hand grenades if you chase any more power out of them - and that's only feasible swap if you want something that's not a minefield of adapter plates and conversion weirdness. Even that would cost over $8K if you wanted something that looked and drove anything like a stock vitara.

Not a good idea IMHO.

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Post Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:15 am 
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WHY, WHYY!!!, A g16b makes okayish low down torque, gets good fuel economy and delivers decent power throughout the revs.

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Post Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:06 am 
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import a grand vitara diesle from the uk

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Post Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:30 am 
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bazook wrote:
import a grand vitara diesle from the uk


Wouldn't NZ be closer?

1996 GV wrecking for conversion parts

1998 GV Auto

2002 GV Manual

2004 GV Manual

And those prices are in NZ$, so you can knock 20% off for AU$!

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Post Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:42 pm 
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So the wrecking one is being wrecked because of a big end failure, so the motor is no good to you.

The others are NZ$6K+ for a small diesel you can't readily buy parts for here with 220,000+kms on it.

I'll stand by my comments this isn't an effective conversion.

Buy the car, get it imported and in your driveway is going to cost the best part of $8k before the conversion has even commenced.

Buying the whole car and bringing it in as a personal import is an option if you can work the registration rules etc.

Thing is, these aren't even very good.

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Post Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:14 am 
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a guy in Foster was recently selling a Vit with a NissAN 2l TURBO diesel. Looked the goods...great lowdown torque.

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Post Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:59 am 
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Did you drive it to know?

Is that the one with the Serena diesel?

I would have thought it would have had significantly less HP than a stock G16B, and whilst it may well have a fair amount less torque, it has 2000rpm rev range so it needs a big increase in torque to overcome the loss of rev range.

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Post Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 1:38 am 
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Gwagensev are you listening to what you are saying? Are you drunk? It's only Wednesday!

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Post Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:47 am 
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Gwagensev are you listening to what you are saying? Are you drunk? It's only Wednesday!


Who are you? He makes perfect sense :roll:

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Post Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:52 am 
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Post Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 3:03 am 
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Just do it mate and tell us how you went.

You'll have a fun project if it works out or not.

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Post Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 12:10 pm 
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A motor with peak torque at 1800 rpm is perfect for 4x4. But most people on this site are g16b byast. Just because it hasn't been done before dosnt mean it's not a good idea.Y

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Post Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 12:24 pm 
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do it dude, take a ton of pics and make videos! =)

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Post Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 6:03 pm 
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I think diesel suck for hard 4x4'
The peak torque at 1800 rpm that is good for chugging up hills at idle also is it's down fall going back down the other side because can't go slow enough because all that torque at idle is still pushing u
If u put tc gear in it to slow it down ,then when it comes time to have to power out of a roll say droping off a ledge u run out of wheel speed because u only have a low redline unless u can change gears like a race driver
My mate has had 2 diesels in his Sierra 1.8 gemi and now 3.1 td mu motor
The car is pretty much a cramped hilux so after bending the chassis over the log at tuff truck because of all the weight of the motor we just started building him a hilux

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Post Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:04 pm 
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just sorting out the gearing would suck a bit as not many diesels will enjoy doing 3000+rpm at 100kph and by the time ya sort the gearing to
the 1800-2200rpm at 100kph what is going to happen with low range.

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Post Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:10 pm 
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got_bar_work wrote:
I think diesel suck for hard 4x4'


Diesels very much have a place in 4x4's a well sorted diesel with an auto behind it in a well geared truck is great. Gobloads of torque, engine braking galore, good range.

Exactly what you have described is the gearing issue that everyone has spoken about.

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Post Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 2:43 am 
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The other problem is that it is in a vitara. There are more things to worry about than putting a 4x4 motor in a city car. Haha

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Post Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 11:58 am 
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It wouldn't look good to the clients going back into the salon the next day with your hands still smelling of diesel after filling up at a hi-flo truck bowser! :helloo: :cry:


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