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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 5:27 am |
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VL Engine Mounts.
With transfer case gears now, and an engine transplant,
I am thinking I should do the engine mounts,
and a few other important items,
while acess is easier.
Is the VL commodore engine mount, that I keep finding in search,
an upgrade for a Vitara, also?
Or just a Sierra thing?
Seems to be cheaper that a Vit pair.
Searches have revealed not all Vits have the same mounts,
so I think I should pull them out before buying new ones.
(or is it an obvious difference seen from outside?)
Last edited by christover1 on Sun Oct 09, 2011 5:48 am, edited 1 time in total.
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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Can't see why not!!! 
_________________ I used to be indecisive,
now I'm not so sure.....
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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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 Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 5:39 am |
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when i did mine, the only difference is that the vit efi mounts are different to the carby mounts. not sure why tho.
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 5:43 am |
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Mines efi being a 93 LWB but externally can't see a difference.
Mounts I found on escam said only for carby engines.
Didn't actually find any listings for efi yet, still searching.
Looks like VL ones are same size and shape. But I better pull them out before spending money.
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Westie

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Joined: Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 1417 Location: Caloundra Sunshine
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 Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 6:07 am |
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Cost more but stick with the Vitara Mounts trust me.
_________________ Steve W
Old guy .... Just wants to go 4WDing with
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 6:10 am |
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Westie wrote: Cost more but stick with the Vitara Mounts trust me.
Found a size comparison on nbs,
Vit mounts are bigger,
by a lot,
dunno if that means better.
From outside mine just look like bigger Sierra ones.
Can't seem to find a comparison between the 2 different types of vitara mount, yet
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:36 am |
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The carby type listed on ebay appear to be the same as mine.
Will wait till I can rip them out, may even be perfectly OK>
I just a bit retentive at times 
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 5:50 am |
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Have decided against using VL mounts.
But having a hard time finding suppliers for the EFI type Vitara mounts.
Only found one so far at $88 each :O
Plenty of Carby types .
Guess I'll have to crawl the wreckers if I need any.
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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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christover1 wrote: Have decided against using VL mounts. But having a hard time finding suppliers for the EFI type Vitara mounts. Only found one so far at $88 each :O
Plenty of Carby types .
Guess I'll have to crawl the wreckers if I need any.
was that from suzistore? thats what i paid lol
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 10:35 am |
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shandy92 wrote: christover1 wrote: Have decided against using VL mounts. But having a hard time finding suppliers for the EFI type Vitara mounts. Only found one so far at $88 each :O
Plenty of Carby types .
Guess I'll have to crawl the wreckers if I need any. was that from suzistore? thats what i paid lol
Yes no one else lists them...hoping I don't need any,
should know by tomorrow,
if I ever get the stuck bolt off 
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Chop

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Joined: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 6456 Location: Radelaide ofcourse!
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 Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 10:53 am |
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I might have some here, i just need to confirm some numbers.
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Chop

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Joined: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 6456 Location: Radelaide ofcourse!
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I have a set of Mackay engine mounts here.
These were hard to get, i had to pay freight to get them in from interstate. suzuki didnt have any when i tried, but their price was dear as.
_________________ Chop
Suzuki's are like Mogwai's, they multiply!
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:54 am |
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That says it suits them all A and B.
Maybe its ok to fit later ones to earlier vits.
Or vice versa.
But that gives me a part number to search for.
If I ever get the motor to auto nut off,
will soon know if I need any.
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Chop

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I had trouble with another brands, they listed mounts for them and they got a set in but they were clearly not for a vitara
And one brand only had one in stock australia wide.
If ya get stuck, ya can have these for what i paid. $69 each.
_________________ Chop
Suzuki's are like Mogwai's, they multiply!
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:15 am |
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Thanks for the offer,
but I just checked out the Mackay site,
Mine has a different type. A5229.
But that answered my questions, thanks.
Now hopefully not needed.
But should carry a spare anyway
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:32 am |
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Some places list the same part for carby and efi Vits.
Others show a differece in shape, has a extra steel block on side for efi models.
At this rate the VL could be back on my list.
Theres quite a few Landcruiser and other vehicles with similar looking mounts
http://www.suzispares.com/scripts/prodV ... roduct=239
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harvs

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Joined: Sun Aug 07, 2011 10:31 am Posts: 192 Location: Newcastle
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If the engine is still in, can you just put a pry bar under each mount and see if they're still in one piece? Doesn't look from the pic like they've got metal "wrap arounds" to stop them ripping off.
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 7:31 am |
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harvs wrote: If the engine is still in, can you just put a pry bar under each mount and see if they're still in one piece? Doesn't look from the pic like they've got metal "wrap arounds" to stop them ripping off.
Almost ready to rip the engine out,
after the battle with the stuck nut is won.
So will check them soon.
I just trying to make sure I don't have any jobs to do,
under the bonnet, while its all out.
I hate repairs,
spanner spinning should be modifactions only.
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
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How much lifes left in this mount ?
Think I'd better buy 2.
Easier while its all out.
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Brett

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Joined: Tue May 27, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1791 Location: Central coast NSW
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did you find some? i have a guy with a parts list ( on email) that they are listed for about $55
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
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Brett wrote: did you find some? i have a guy with a parts list ( on email) that they are listed for about $55
The cheapest I have found so far is $100 each.
And around $60 for the smaller carby vit mounts.
Some places have solid gold engine mounts.
I still can't see a huge difference in these from the carb vitaras.
So considering Heavy Duty Sierra mounts from low range.
(possibly from an AZ member)
If they do drop motor down,
I have 25mm dropped front diff, so may be fine.
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stocker
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
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stocker wrote: http://www.suzispares.com/scripts/prodList.asp?idcategory=54&curPage=4&sortField=sortorder they are 64 on here 
Yeah found them,
they are showing same mount for carby and efi,
as a few sellers do.
Maybe they do fit.
If so, heavy duty carby vit from lowrange, which are also same for Sierra,
are a cheaper and maybe better option?
ebay has $64 g16a listed,
must be the going price.
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
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stocker
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 Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:36 am |
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My EFI ones look identical to your ones, and the one in the picture
_________________ Stocker
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
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stocker wrote: My EFI ones look identical to your ones, and the one in the picture
Mine have an extra block welded on the end,
but other than that I cant see a difference.
And it dont seem to serve any purpose, either.
It could just be a selling gimmick.
I reckon I'll go for the cheaper type,
more common, too,
and available in Heavy duty.
I'll make them fit rather than pay some of the stoopid prices I seen on the so called efi type
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Chop

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Joined: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 6456 Location: Radelaide ofcourse!
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Yeah that block on them doesnt do anything.
_________________ Chop
Suzuki's are like Mogwai's, they multiply!
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 9:38 am |
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block may just be for identification in the factory.
Problems solved now,
thanks to an AZ forum member.
I buying some as new unused 2nd hand HD ones 
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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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 Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:22 pm |
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that block is there to help with vibration absorption. my new mount has it.
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 9:03 pm |
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shandy92 wrote: that block is there to help with vibration absorption. my new mount has it.
That makes sense, had to have a purpose.
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