[monley]

Guys,

As some of you guy's know i broke reserve gear in my M13A vvt jimny. So i have been to my local suzuki dealership to see if they can fix it under warranty...but as per usual they didn't want to know about it and couldn't even look at the car til next week...so im not going to wait around for them.

So what i would like to do is put a stronger gear box in....but the only option i can find that will bolt up to the m13a VVT motor is a non-vvt m13a gear box. So what i would like to know are these gear boxes much stronger than the VVT boxes?

If there is no difference in strength, i was planning on taking my current box out to see what's going on with there...and replacing the clutch at the same time....

Opinion's please on what i should do....


Cheers,

Monley

[zuk85]

It sucks aye. Im just waiting for something in mine to go reverse is always hard to get in. even running that vmx80, was good at the start but slowly going back to old ways.

obviously its something in the box thats causing this failure, can the problem item be strengthend/ replaced with better option. set of straight cut gears ha ha ha " nah mate its not the diff whining :D"

open the box up anyways since it dont work, And see what the problem is. could be a cheap fix, could be a buy zukenutters old box sitution lol

[monley]

Well i just got of the phone with suztstore, they have a stripped down VVT box down for part's ATM so im going to take mine out and see what's going on in there & get what ever part's i need to fix the backward's gear

[89_tintop]

just push it back.... dont be lazy.

[steak_knife]

Non Vvt is it, not really stronger, but give's you an overdrive rather then just 5 gear's....

[monley]

steak_knife wrote:

Non Vvt is it, not really stronger, but give's you an overdrive rather then just 5 gear's....

mhh...i wonder what my rev's would be at 100kph with the 20% t-case gear's, 4.3 diff's and the non-vvt box....

[squibby]

Reverse ain't got synchro (same as most cars) just need to release the clutch to biting point while applying pressure to the gear lever. It slots home fine then without any crunching. something about the M13AA gearbox never quite feels right though, I'm not suprised they are seeming to prove unreliable.

[Bugsta]

Zukenutter will be able to give you his opinion on the non VVT box. In terms of gearing, with the gear box and t-case from earlier model, on the 235's he reckons the gearing is much nicer and he has plenty of power.

As for clutch. I absolutely love the Exedy I have - modified by NPC here. Better than original.

[zook91]

if you want stronger you could take the gearset out and take them to a transmission place, ppg or straight cut gears, wrx style haha

[monley]

Well just I dropped the car of at Suzistore..... ill wait and see what they say...

[atari4x4]

how many kms has it done monkey?

[monley]

atari4x4 wrote:

how many kms has it done monkey?

20k ish

[atari4x4]

serious!!???

either jimny's are weak as piss or you've got no mechanical sympathy.

[monley]

atari4x4 wrote:

:rofl: serious!!???

either jimny's are weak as piss or you've got no mechanical sympathy.

The second one

[monley]

atari4x4 wrote:

:rofl: serious!!???

either jimny's are weak as piss or you've got no mechanical sympathy.

The second one

[smiffkid]

reverse is the weakest gear in the jimnys expecially when your using the revlimiter in reverse

[monley]

I was only doing 1500-2000rpm....

[smiffkid]

after it broke or before haha

[monley]

During it breaking

[atari4x4]

does that mean jimny's are weaker than coily's seeing it broke so easy?

[BJPK]

how the fuck can you just keep spending money on your basically brand new jimny? id be broke as fuck, and im damn sure i earn a lot more money than you

[atari4x4]

lives at home with mummy & daddy.

[steak_knife]

atari4x4 wrote:

lives at home with mummy & daddy.

& sister????

[monley]

BJPK wrote:

how the fuck can you just keep spending money on your basically brand new jimny? id be broke as fuck, and im damn sure i earn a lot more money than you

I have no other real expense's in life ATM ! OH and im on pretty good money for my age

[zukenutter]

atari4x4 wrote:

does that mean jimny's are weaker than coily's seeing it broke so easy?

Just the gearbox.


VVT gearbox definitely has issues, mainly the rear main bearing, mine at about 50,000 and just out of warranty. My black Jimny box never missed a beat for 165,000 and was still silky. The box I'm running now has at least 150,000 and feels better than the original. We had it repaired with genuine parts for a very princely sum. For sale Monkey.

[monley]

zukenutter wrote:

atari4x4 wrote:

does that mean jimny's are weaker than coily's seeing it broke so easy?

Just the gearbox.


VVT gearbox definitely has issues, mainly the rear main bearing, mine at about 50,000 and just out of warranty. My black Jimny box never missed a beat for 165,000 and was still silky. The box I'm running now has at least 150,000 and feels better than the original. We had it repaired with genuine parts for a very princely sum. For sale Monkey.

Postage to 6210?

[zukenutter]

monkey wrote:

zukenutter wrote:

atari4x4 wrote:

does that mean jimny's are weaker than coily's seeing it broke so easy?

Just the gearbox.


VVT gearbox definitely has issues, mainly the rear main bearing, mine at about 50,000 and just out of warranty. My black Jimny box never missed a beat for 165,000 and was still silky. The box I'm running now has at least 150,000 and feels better than the original. We had it repaired with genuine parts for a very princely sum. For sale Monkey.

Postage to 6210?

Probably less than SuziStore will charge you for a rebuild

[JrZook]

monkey wrote:

I was only doing 1500-2000rpm....

And shock loading it by bouncing around like a pogo stick

[monley]

drewmouli wrote:

JrZook wrote:

monkey wrote:

I was only doing 1500-2000rpm....

And shock loading it by bouncing around like a pogo stick

Didnt help the fact that he already has broken transfer mounts pogo stick with flair the shit out of reverse

What would you know? You were to busy playing with your little kite when i broke it

The t-case mount's are fine....just tend to stretch a bit with that all that torque from the 1.3 and gear's like your's do aye Drew?

[monley]

zukenutter wrote:

monkey wrote:

zukenutter wrote:

atari4x4 wrote:

does that mean jimny's are weaker than coily's seeing it broke so easy?

Just the gearbox.


VVT gearbox definitely has issues, mainly the rear main bearing, mine at about 50,000 and just out of warranty. My black Jimny box never missed a beat for 165,000 and was still silky. The box I'm running now has at least 150,000 and feels better than the original. We had it repaired with genuine parts for a very princely sum. For sale Monkey.

Postage to 6210?

Probably less than SuziStore will charge you for a rebuild

How much dose the box weigh? I'm not joking....