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scorpydude
Joined: Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:47 am Posts: 286 Location: South East Brisbane
Vehicle: 02 GV SQ625 + 84 Sierra SJ410
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 Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 3:02 am |
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Alright... so your heading out for a week of 'lets see were we end up' 4wding and camping with mates... you goto fit all your camping/cooking gear in your sierra still so you don't have unlimited room!
What do you take to try and get by with some roadside mechanics during the trip?
I'll get it started - what else?
Toolbox
Spanners, Socket set, hammer/rubber+plastic mallet, various pliars, breaker bar, punch set, alan key set, multi/vice grips, wire brush, various circlip pliars, various files including round)
Sparky section of toolbox
Multimeter, wire, clips, fuses, crimp tool, butain + butain soldering iron, electrical tape
Other tools
12v compressor
12v light
bottle jack
shovel
bottle of water
couple of small bottles of various oils
Spare parts
Duct tape
Fence wire
Handfull of common bolt, nut and washer sizes
Spare radiator, 1/2", 3/4" and vacume hoses
CV (left + right)
Tcase mounts
engine mounts
Bulbs (dash/indicator/rear/reverse)
break pads
window winder
the hub it took off my gv to put on my manual hubs (plan is if a manual hub ever breaks i can put this onto either the gv or sierra to still have 4wd)
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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10, 12, 14, 17mm sockets and spanners
multi grips
BIG hammer
bag of cable ties
4ltr water
oil
wheel brace
silicone
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Lockie666

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Joined: Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 1874 Location: Perth
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MrRocky wrote: 10, 12, 14, 17mm sockets and spanners multi grips BIG hammer bag of cable ties 4ltr water oil wheel brace silicone
+ scissor jack 
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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 Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:01 am |
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nah i just balance it on 3
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Reubs
Joined: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1522 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SJ80, SE416
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scorpydude wrote: butain + butain soldering iron break pads window winder the hub it took off my gv to put on my manual hubs (plan is if a manual hub ever breaks i can put this onto either the gv or sierra to still have 4wd)
IMO these items are best left at home.
There is nothing electrical that will leave you stranded somewhere that can't be crimped instead of soldered so no need for a butane soldereing iron.
Brake pads - if you are unlucky enough to have them fall out are easily found again near where they went bang and if they are getting low on material they will still last the journey home.
Window winder - do these fail often???
I'd like to see you break a set of manual freewheel hubs - bolts maybe but I doubt you would break the hub!
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Mattmorgo

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Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 464 Location: Southside Brisbane- the best side of the river
Vehicle: Shitbox
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Reubs wrote: scorpydude wrote: butain + butain soldering iron break pads window winder the hub it took off my gv to put on my manual hubs (plan is if a manual hub ever breaks i can put this onto either the gv or sierra to still have 4wd) IMO these items are best left at home. There is nothing electrical that will leave you stranded somewhere that can't be crimped instead of soldered so no need for a butane soldereing iron. Brake pads - if you are unlucky enough to have them fall out are easily found again near where they went bang and if they are getting low on material they will still last the journey home. Window winder - do these fail often??? I'd like to see you break a set of manual freewheel hubs - bolts maybe but I doubt you would break the hub!
Also spare radiator????
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Reubs
Joined: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1522 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SJ80, SE416
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 Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:10 am |
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On a positive note, good stuff to include is:
moly grease, a piece of fine sandpaper, a tube of silastic and a fuel tank repair kit/metal putty.
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scorpydude
Joined: Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:47 am Posts: 286 Location: South East Brisbane
Vehicle: 02 GV SQ625 + 84 Sierra SJ410
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 Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:11 am |
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Various sized hoses including radiator hose not a spare radiator itself LOL - read matty cmon
I dunoo if i could leave the house without my trusty butane soldering Iron! What if some dodgy wiring caught fire and I needed to replace it
Brake pads ... yeah i suppose they can stay at home. I've been marked ever since I put that pad in wrong and found it later to have a big crack in it!
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buzbox
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3600 Location: Wollongong NSW
Vehicle: LWB Sierra & XL7
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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scorpydude wrote: Various sized hoses included radiator hose - read matty cmon  I dunoo if i could leave the house without my trusty butane soldering Iron! What if some dodgy wiring caught fire and I needed to replace it  Brake pads ... yeah i suppose they can stay at home. I've been marked ever since I put that pad in wrong and found it later to have a big crack in it!
In theory, youve got no dodgy wiring before you leave, all standard suzuki looms are pretty reliable
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scorpydude
Joined: Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:47 am Posts: 286 Location: South East Brisbane
Vehicle: 02 GV SQ625 + 84 Sierra SJ410
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 Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:23 am |
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royce wrote: In theory, youve got no dodgy wiring before you leave
You haven't seen my wiring have you Royce - it's border line arson
My butane soldering iron (without the end on) works well as a blow torch... perfect for those raining nights where you just really want to toast a mashmellow 
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TZAR

az supporter
Joined: Tue Aug 01, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 3461 Location: licking some windows
Vehicle: LJ20 LJ50
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 Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:27 am |
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royce wrote: scorpydude wrote: Various sized hoses included radiator hose - read matty cmon  I dunoo if i could leave the house without my trusty butane soldering Iron! What if some dodgy wiring caught fire and I needed to replace it  Brake pads ... yeah i suppose they can stay at home. I've been marked ever since I put that pad in wrong and found it later to have a big crack in it! In theory, youve got no dodgy wiring before you leave, all standard suzuki looms are pretty reliable
Hey Royce is this scorpydude that fucknuckle that fella was telling us about on Saturday night???? Or was that someone else???
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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TZAR wrote: royce wrote: scorpydude wrote: Various sized hoses included radiator hose - read matty cmon  I dunoo if i could leave the house without my trusty butane soldering Iron! What if some dodgy wiring caught fire and I needed to replace it  Brake pads ... yeah i suppose they can stay at home. I've been marked ever since I put that pad in wrong and found it later to have a big crack in it! In theory, youve got no dodgy wiring before you leave, all standard suzuki looms are pretty reliable Hey Royce is this scorpydude that fucknuckle that fella was telling us about on Saturday night???? Or was that someone else???
fucks me, I dont pay attention to fucknuckle for the most part
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scorpydude
Joined: Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:47 am Posts: 286 Location: South East Brisbane
Vehicle: 02 GV SQ625 + 84 Sierra SJ410
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 Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:30 am |
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TZAR wrote: is this scorpydude that fucknuckle
Nar don't match that description! - sorry! 
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weaves

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Joined: Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1564 Location: Newcastle
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 Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:31 am |
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My toolbox consists of a
screwdriver (a old schoole one where you can change heads).
a few spanners (a metrinch set that i hate but will do the job when the poop hits the fan)
a shifter (also can double as a hammer)
some tape
zip ties
and my bottle jack fits in their nicely too
*the only exception is if its first run after some modification or after a long break from driving, i'll chuck my socket set in, and anything else thats small was necessary to the job i just did.
If i really need anything else thats not on that list, then my day is shit house anyway regardless
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Aaron

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Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 348 Location: Goldcoast, Pac Pines
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screw gun with 8mm socket, a couple hundred tek screws
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gregc
Joined: Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:09 am Posts: 177 Location: melbourne
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I didnt see Tyre Plugs written anywhere on the lists above.
It can also be worth while taking a tom-thumb pump bottle for refilling diffs and transfer cases. You'll quickly be the envy of all your friends when you produce one of these on the trail.
Brake Pads are definately a good idea. I've been on two trips where the pads have fallen out on the first track - which ends the day for that person immediately, but could have been fixed very easily with spares.
Ratchet Straps. For re-mounting tyres, or strapping a diff in position if you break a spring. Be sure to carry 2 of these.
Plus, the good old mobile phone. Even though I dont have coverage all the time, it's still going to be closer to walk to an area with coverage rather than walk back to town.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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This is the list I did years ago for our club:
Quote: Here's the basic tools and spares required to keep you car moving
Fuses for eveything on the car (glass for 1.0, blade for later sierras, but remember fused accessories too) Electrical crimp tool Selection of terminals inlcuding scotch locks some sapre wire Insulating tape Gaffa tape Multimeter, or test light, or continuity/voltage tester 10, 12, 14, 17, 19mm spanners wheel brace jack (factory is OK but check it has enough height for your tyre size) pliers (needle nose) Vice grips (at least one small pair and one large pair #2 and #3 phillips screwdrivers a couple of flat blade screwdrivers Hammer (preferably engineers - ball pein - hammer) A repair punch and a cold chisel JB weld RTV silicone like loctite red assortment of hose clamps radiator hoses Fanbelt small length of fuel line cable ties assortment of spare nuts and bolts CRC/WD40 or equivalent 1L engine oil 1L gearbox oil circlip pliers a spare universal joint about 5l of water - enough to flush a radiator or refill a cooling system. a small triangular file (for cleaning damaged threads)
That's pretty much it - beyond that, you're into advanced repair and it's beyond the easy trackside fix. Most repairs will be a leak, a hole in something, something loose or more commonly an electrical problem.
If you have an EFI car, know how to jump the diagnostic plug to deliver flash codes on the check engine light and carry the relevant pages of the FSM that give you those codes with you, it will make repairs/understanding what's wrong super easy.
What you don't need are gadget tools like ratchet spanners, torque wrenches or cordless drills. keep it simple and you'll be fine.
Steve.
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TZAR

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Joined: Tue Aug 01, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 3461 Location: licking some windows
Vehicle: LJ20 LJ50
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 Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 5:37 am |
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scorpydude wrote: TZAR wrote: is this scorpydude that fucknuckle Nar don't match that description! - sorry! 
Nah we will be the judge of that....
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PJ.zook

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Joined: Sat Oct 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 845 Location: Melbourne
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scorpydude wrote: royce wrote: In theory, youve got no dodgy wiring before you leave You haven't seen my wiring have you Royce - it's border line arson  My butane soldering iron (without the end on) works well as a blow torch... perfect for those raining nights where you just really want to toast a mashmellow 
You are henceforth hereby dubbed Lucas.
Tools I carry are just general stuff and basic spares. I'm looking for an all in one toolkit but haven't found one suitable yet. Fuck sake why doesn't anyone make a kit with a mix of 3/4 and 1/2" ratchets.
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PJ.zook

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Joined: Sat Oct 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 845 Location: Melbourne
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THIS is the closest I have found to being suitable
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youda
Joined: Sat Oct 15, 2011 11:44 am Posts: 204 Location: Townsville
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Insted of heaps of spare radiator hoses i went through the bin at supercheap and found one long hose with a few bends that i could cut to fit any of the existing hoses.
a spare of the longest spark plug lead.
one spark plug.
10, 12, 14, spanners
i have a 17, 19 on my spare tyre cross bar.
pliers
one philps head, one flat head.
one 3/8th ratchet for diff/transfer plugs.
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Red89
Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2801 Location: Perth
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gregc wrote: Brake Pads are definately a good idea. I've been on two trips where the pads have fallen out on the first track - which ends the day for that person immediately, but could have been fixed very easily with spares.
This could be solved by putting some vice grips on the rubber hose to the offending corner could it not. Its not the best but would do for a track side fix.
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bakerboy
Joined: Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 2291 Location: Perth
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Im more interested how they manage to fall out in the first place
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Reubs
Joined: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1522 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SJ80, SE416
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Red89 wrote: gregc wrote: Brake Pads are definately a good idea. I've been on two trips where the pads have fallen out on the first track - which ends the day for that person immediately, but could have been fixed very easily with spares. This could be solved by putting some vice grips on the rubber hose to the offending corner could it not. Its not the best but would do for a track side fix. I carry a set of these in the toolbox for pinching brake lines - haven't had to use them yet (but they are also good for isolating coolant and fuel hoses when doing maintenance). Kincrome Hose Pincher Setbakerboy wrote: Im more interested how they manage to fall out in the first place
From my experience stuck caliper slides caused by mud getting under the seals. One side of the caliper sliders - the other does not and the pads get worn into a wedge shape. When the metal is reached on 1 side the pad 'grabs' and gets shot out leaving you with no brakes.
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troopy
Joined: Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 398 Location: bunbury
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I carry my cordless rattle gun and while it may sound excessive it saves alot of time
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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TZAR wrote: royce wrote: scorpydude wrote: Various sized hoses included radiator hose - read matty cmon  I dunoo if i could leave the house without my trusty butane soldering Iron! What if some dodgy wiring caught fire and I needed to replace it  Brake pads ... yeah i suppose they can stay at home. I've been marked ever since I put that pad in wrong and found it later to have a big crack in it! In theory, youve got no dodgy wiring before you leave, all standard suzuki looms are pretty reliable Hey Royce is this scorpydude that fucknuckle that fella was telling us about on Saturday night???? Or was that someone else???
Yes........ 
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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bakerboy wrote: Im more interested how they manage to fall out in the first place
Normally under thickness rotors and low pads.
Driving a car with a single front brake isn't fun. It's a way of getting off the track, but it's the end of your off road driving for the day.
I know it goes in the realm of "preventative maintenance" but when was the last time you checked the thickness of a rotor on the car?
PS gregc carries a kinchrome hose pincher. They work quite well. Not sure how to deal with braided lines though?
Steve.
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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I have had a brake pad fall out onroad. Not fun! Lucky i was close to home. No pedal brakes, Only handbrake. Lucky it was working at the time.
You could do a bush wood carving brake pad shape.. 
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GRPABT1
Joined: Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 731 Location: Townsville
Vehicle: 88 SWB WT Sierra soft top ute
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 Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:39 pm |
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My ultimate tool box would contain nothing, cause ultimately I'd like to break nothing. Never works that way though
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