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Post Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:31 pm 
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Howdy, I'm after the dimensions of the stock shroud unit + thermo fan that goes onto the radiator in a M13A Jimny. Particularly the measurement from the radiator/front of shroud to the back of the fan motor. If it looks like it will fit for me I will buy one.

I believe that some came with the fan attached to the engine...,mine did, but I am fairly sure that option won't work as well for me as an electrical one would. The engines on an angle compared to the rad, I would have to find some of them studs, a fan.. and I want to be able to turn it off. I have seen some with electrical fans on ebay so there must be some out there. Or perhaps another car that uses the same engine/rad uses them?

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My engine gets hotter than I would like with a good ebay thermo cable tied right onto the radiator, i.e. if I do a lot of hard slow driving on a hot day it overheats :/, its not capable of cooling itself down once you have got it to 110oC+ and then don't move the zook, I need to go for a fast drive or turn it off to cool it back down. Soooo I'm thinking it might be worth trying with a shroud to get more air over more metal. And buying one is a lot easier than making one. If this isn't possible we will have to make one up though. I have ~70mm of room between the radiator and the water output/pulleys on the front of the engine in the tightest spot at the top, so not a huge amount of room :/.

Here is the best 2 pics I seem to have of the current set up that has worked ok for 2 years, but there is always room for improvement :), I'm also going to see if it makes a difference if I use the inbuilt oil cooler in the rad instead of the external one etc, so I have some oil temp gauges and T junctions coming. I only realised what those 2 outlets on the bottom were recently lol, and I'm trying to track down some fittings.
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Post Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:37 pm 
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Noone? :'(

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Post Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:54 pm 
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In The middle of the radiator, the shroud is 50mm and then out towards the air box its 125mm. Hope that helps a bit, although have you checked for blockages in the radiator and hoses etc? Maybe a flush will help resolve this issue? The m13a does get quite warm, but if it's overheating I'd put money on there being a problem that a fan isn't going to fix... Could even be the thermo? Water pump on the way out?

Just some things to think about :) good luck!

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Post Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:30 pm 
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Hi, thanks for replying :)

So its thicker on the side than in the middle?, or I'm confused :/, got a pic by chance?

I'm imagining that it looks something like this:?
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/320863697041 ... 693wt_1002

Does your have the fan on the engine or a thermo like that out of interest? :)


Yea its always been bad, and I have noticed that the engine runs hot haha, the original sierra rad kept over heating and then the top blew apart one day... :). The engine hasn't done many kms and the jimny rad i have is new, and the zook doesn't clock up many kms. So nothing should be wore out. I will be taking the auto cooler off the front of the radiator and seeing if there is any mud in between them this weekend though, that's one thing i haven't done.. I don't have any more of them special cable ties.... Even if that's causing it to be slightly hotter than normal I would still like it cooler if possible :), I would feel much better not having to watch the temp all the time. I will see if I can make up a shroud this weekend, we will see what happens.. we don't have anything that can weld up thin metal :/., so it might be plastic or metal and a lot of cable ties :\.

I have bought a oil temp guage and a T junction that should be here in a week or so then I can see how hot the auto is getting too, and perhaps move that cooler to a new spot or do something about it if that would help the water temp too.

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Post Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:38 pm 
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Na looks nothing like that... It basically gets wider near the air box side of things to stop shit hitting the fan as such lol

I'll try get you a pic tomoz if I get home in daylight hours

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