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oohsam
Joined: Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:12 pm Posts: 489 Location: south east melbourne
Vehicle: 96 vit hardtop
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 Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 8:24 am |
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Hey Poita, it wil give you more flex as it allows the strut to come down X inches (in a 2 inch kit, its 1.5 inches).
I dont think the Jimny bits lift kit is half baked at all. its proper springs, and new rear shocks. The only thing you dont get are front struts....
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Poita
Joined: Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:03 am Posts: 553 Location: Adelaide, SA
Vehicle: 2010 Suzuki Swift Sports
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Yeah I don't have a problem with the springs and shocks... I do have a problem with the strut extenders.... there is a lot of load on that area and it seems like a dodgy way of getting around spending a couple hundred on decent extended struts. They are super easy to get, Dobinson and OME are 2 that can be obtained easily.
The strut spacer setup doesn't looks as so bad but still no idea how it would effect the handling/safety, so can't comment on that one.
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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The spacers also stop your strut tops from being captive anymore, if for some reason it comes loose your wheel can fall over and you still die
It also moves a pivot point on the suspension, probably effects something as well
1.5" of extra travel is splitting hairs in real life, but I guess ramp flex is important
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got_bar_work
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 8:30 pm Posts: 2214 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SQ625
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 Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:09 am |
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I wouldnt get the strut extensions they come apart Best cheap lift on a vit would be Dobinson front struts and coils and 15mm spacer Diff drop and strut mount flip Custom rear springs as im yet to see any rear springs long or stiff enough for a lwb Tsor uper link a Or spacer on ball joint Commo shocks Im also looking into raising lowers on the diff end so they sit level abd same seperation from uper as stock
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oohsam
Joined: Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:12 pm Posts: 489 Location: south east melbourne
Vehicle: 96 vit hardtop
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 Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:12 am |
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Sory Royce, I didn't really understand your post.
what do you mean 'if it comes lose you will die'. Do you mean if the strut spacer comes lose? Technically, wouldn't it just be effectively making the strut a little longer?
If 1.5 inch'es isnt much, why do guys do the strut flip? it wouldn't give any more than 1 inch...surley?
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got_bar_work
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 8:30 pm Posts: 2214 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SQ625
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 Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:20 am |
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Strut flip is about 30mm This is what happened when a strut come out 
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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Poita wrote: Ok, after a little explaining... what do the strut spacers do? Just give you more flex? I already have 40mm extended Dobinson struts...
Allow strut to droop further down by that (size of spacer) amount. But prevent it going up by same amount. So matching bumpstop extentions needed to prevent strut damage.
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oohsam
Joined: Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:12 pm Posts: 489 Location: south east melbourne
Vehicle: 96 vit hardtop
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 Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:24 am |
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Damn, that looks nasty.
So that came out by using the strut extenders (the extra thread piece) , not the strut spacers?
I cant see how the strut spacers pose any sort of real risk, unless they come lose, which could happen with or without the spacers if not tightned properly..
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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think about the force that is put on the little threaded section, each & every time the suspension rebounds. 
_________________ You're just hating because you don't understand
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oohsam
Joined: Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:12 pm Posts: 489 Location: south east melbourne
Vehicle: 96 vit hardtop
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 Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:12 am |
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I'm not talking bout the Strut extender, I am in cahootz with you guys that its bad and wont be used!
More so about the strut spacers that I put a pic up of...they are ok>? or no.
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oohsam
Joined: Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:12 pm Posts: 489 Location: south east melbourne
Vehicle: 96 vit hardtop
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 Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:12 am |
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I'm not talking bout the Strut extender, I am in cahootz with you guys that its bad and wont be used!
More so about the strut spacers that I put a pic up of...they are ok>? or no.
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dhula
Joined: Sun Jan 01, 2012 2:05 am Posts: 207 Location: Rockingham, West Oz
Vehicle: 2002 GV V6 and self shifter
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 Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:20 am |
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IMO strut spacer OK Strut extender should be used as target practice by the biggest baddest arse nuclear bomber in the world and never seen again
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oohsam
Joined: Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:12 pm Posts: 489 Location: south east melbourne
Vehicle: 96 vit hardtop
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I will remember to place the strut extender on my rifle target at next sight in. Photos to come of a strut extender being hit by a 30-06.
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Fatzook

az supporter
Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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 Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:33 am |
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Another thing to consider with the strut extender is the material used. Schockie shafts are usually made from 350 Nickel/Chrome plated 20MnV6 normalised steel, or similar. Those strut extenders would be 1020 mi8ld steel at best.
The other concern is that there is now twice as much thread tasked to hold the strut in place. Thats twice the opportunity for thread failure.
_________________ 2013 GV 1998 SV420 ute
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got_bar_work
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 8:30 pm Posts: 2214 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SQ625
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 Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:40 pm |
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And no nylong to stop them unscewing Pete any chance of making struts out of some good shocks Like how bilsteine do where the smooth body become the shaft and they make a cover over the shaft which is the new body I will take some 100mm over stock
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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got_bar_work wrote: And no nylong to stop them unscewing Pete any chance of making struts out of some good shocks Like how bilsteine do where the smooth body become the shaft and they make a cover over the shaft which is the new body I will take some 100mm over stock I approached fulcrum a while back about this. They were happy to manufacture the bodies for me, but it was going to be dearer than fitting coil overs, so I dropped it.
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bigrig91
Joined: Mon May 11, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1308 Location: Redcliffe
Vehicle: 96 LWB Vit, 2.5L powerhouse
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I know u probably wouldnt get the travel ur chasing but could u fit a coil over in the position of the standard strut? Maybe with an extension into the engine bay providing it doesnt come out of the bonnet?
The top mount would be easy but the bottom mount might require some thought??
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bigdogdazza
Joined: Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:49 pm Posts: 305
Vehicle: Nl pajero Lwb, 98 jimny
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I am dealing with Russ from Jimnybits with assorted gear over the past month or so, the vitara 3" lift kit DOES have the option of 3" extended front struts and honestly I can say it works extremely well and flex is great! I can't tell you to go calmini or jimnybits as I haven't fitted nor driven a calmini vitara but I think you will be impressed by the jimnybits kit. I also bought a 3" lift kit for my Jimny which will be fitted next weekend can't wait! Will have for sale a 2" body lift kit brand new in the box for jimny as I got both but after lifting the vitara I don't think I will need it.
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