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Kayarubin
Joined: Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:54 pm Posts: 2 Location: Perth W.A
Vehicle: Red 1988 Suzuki Sierra
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 Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:35 am |
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Hi guys, just a quick one, I've recently put in a 2in spring lift, and installed longer shocks (blue max) but the ride was absolutely SHOCKING! I took a leaf out of all the packs (a little better, but still spine breaking) and a few days later , installed the standard rear shocks, this made it monumentally better to drive on road, but these are at near on full travel when flexed..
Are the commodore shocks approximately the same rate as std sierra ones, or will I run into the same problems as I'm encountering now?
Any help would be appreciated!
Kaya.
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Zook101
Joined: Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:28 am Posts: 118 Location: Gippsland, VIC
Vehicle: 1987 Suzuki Sierra hard top
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Kayarubin,
Did you mean Blue pack?? off Ebay???
I was gonna buy these for mine Damn.
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Samwich
Joined: Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:13 pm Posts: 1125 Location: Canberra
Vehicle: Vit swb 95
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 Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:35 am |
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Check your tyre preasures?
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Kayarubin
Joined: Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:54 pm Posts: 2 Location: Perth W.A
Vehicle: Red 1988 Suzuki Sierra
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 Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:37 pm |
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No it's a not so well known company called blue max, they're not as cheap as blupac, (probably halfway between them and OME quality) but the shocks are just plain fu#*ed ride quality wise.. I imagine blupac wouldn't be much better, but considering their price, I'd still consider them (maybe take a leaf out like I did to soften them up a bit.)
I have changed the pressures ranging from 15psi, right up to 35, and everything in between, to no avail. I'm happy to use std shocks for now, but once i get a little more height out of it, I'd like to change them to extended type.
Kaya.
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Reubs
Joined: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1522 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SJ80, SE416
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Kayarubin wrote: I have changed the pressures ranging from 15psi, right up to 35, and everything in between, to no avail. I'm happy to use std shocks for now, but once i get a little more height out of it, I'd like to change them to extended type. Seriously no difference felt? Try 22 or less - no higher EVER...
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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Reubs wrote: Kayarubin wrote: I have changed the pressures ranging from 15psi, right up to 35, and everything in between, to no avail. I'm happy to use std shocks for now, but once i get a little more height out of it, I'd like to change them to extended type. Seriously no difference felt? Try 22 or less - no higher EVER... must be driving on morphine 
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stockman

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Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 5319 Location: Canberra
Vehicle: 4wd
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 Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 6:18 pm |
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The problem is not so much the shocks, but the cheap and nasty springs.
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
Vehicle: Awesome!!
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Kayarubin wrote: and a few days later , installed the standard rear shocks, this made it monumentally better to drive on road, but these are at near on full travel when flexed..
The problem stockman, is that you can't read Kayarubin for a budget shock I've used Boge turbo shocks. They seem to be fairly softly valved with descent travel. I'm running koni 80 series rebound adjustable shocks which are a bit more pricey but have been the best shocks I've had under any leafy so far.
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stockman

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Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 5319 Location: Canberra
Vehicle: 4wd
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You can't read either stockman wrote: The problem is not so much the shocks, but the cheap and nasty springs.
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31zook
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9242 Location: maito
Vehicle: <3 Edna <3
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^Blue Suzy is free  When I ran the commo/lux combo (like everyone says) there valves a bit stiff for a Sierra, but are very reasonable. I also think its due to the leaf springs also. I run commo shocks on the front of my jimny, and the valving is spot on!
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KEENSY85
Joined: Wed May 09, 2012 12:46 am Posts: 1742 Location: north brisbane
Vehicle: 1985 lwb sierra UTE
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U could try doetch from lror
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rob45x
Joined: Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:09 pm Posts: 813 Location: Sydney
Vehicle: 92 sierra tintop, 88 WT sj50
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I've got the same problem in my sierra. Very harsh ride with leaf springs and Rancho 5000 shocks. I think the brand of springs is 'rock crawler'. They were purchased and installed by the previous owner at 4wd1 shop
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Aaron

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Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 348 Location: Goldcoast, Pac Pines
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rob45x wrote: I've got the same problem in my sierra. Very harsh ride with leaf springs and Rancho 5000 shocks. I think the brand of springs is 'rock crawler'. They were purchased and installed by the previous owner at 4wd1 shop Sounds like the eBay kit you can get
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IN2DEP

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Joined: Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 739 Location: Hoppers Crossing
Vehicle: 95 Sierra Soft top
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KEENSY85 wrote: U could try doetch from lror There nothing great, i got the doetch 3000 and there still pretty ruff but again im running a diffrenet springs
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
Vehicle: G13BB Jimny
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IN2DEP wrote: KEENSY85 wrote: U could try doetch from lror There nothing great, i got the doetch 3000 and there still pretty ruff but again im running a diffrenet springs Dont you have 3" springs?
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KEENSY85
Joined: Wed May 09, 2012 12:46 am Posts: 1742 Location: north brisbane
Vehicle: 1985 lwb sierra UTE
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IN2DEP

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Joined: Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 739 Location: Hoppers Crossing
Vehicle: 95 Sierra Soft top
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SierraDan wrote: IN2DEP wrote: KEENSY85 wrote: U could try doetch from lror There nothing great, i got the doetch 3000 and there still pretty ruff but again im running a diffrenet springs Dont you have 3" springs? Yes i am running the lror 3" springs but i recently picked up my sierra from the shop and pretty happy what they did to the springs to make them flex, They pulled a leaf out from each pack and heated them then recorved them so im a touch higher then 3" but flexs very good, but still a pretty bumby ride, but they are brand new springs so they will soften up abit, but after time i will like to try diffrenet shocks see whats softer and comfier
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stockman

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Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 5319 Location: Canberra
Vehicle: 4wd
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KEENSY85 wrote: 3'' what brand? Calmini do a 3" spring and there also very stiff.
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KEENSY85
Joined: Wed May 09, 2012 12:46 am Posts: 1742 Location: north brisbane
Vehicle: 1985 lwb sierra UTE
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I thought shep at a set don't they use the boomerang shackels to get the extra lift?
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stockman

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Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 5319 Location: Canberra
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KEENSY85 wrote: I thought shep at a set don't they use the boomerang shackels to get the extra lift? 3" springs reverse shackle brings it to 5" lift
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whincup

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Joined: Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 1588 Location: Gracemere, QLD
Vehicle: '94 suzuki maruti
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don't use rancho's... i run the adjustable (9000) in my maruti and on the softest setting the rear was ok-ish but the front is still waaay too firm.
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KEENSY85
Joined: Wed May 09, 2012 12:46 am Posts: 1742 Location: north brisbane
Vehicle: 1985 lwb sierra UTE
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My next will be Koni most likely, I just had some weird lengths to match and when I rang Koni shocks they weren't very helpful. And doetch shocks were still 300 cheaper
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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stockman wrote: KEENSY85 wrote: I thought shep at a set don't they use the boomerang shackels to get the extra lift? 3" springs reverse shackle brings it to 5" lift 4" rear and they are to soft on a lwb, can invert stock shackles driving up a gutter. Flex like a slinky but.
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