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Gceozeh
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:45 pm Posts: 114 Location: Maylands
Vehicle: 92 Suzuki Vitara Jx
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 Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 9:03 pm |
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So I found out that what I thought were my recovery points just to be tie down points.
After visiting a 4wd store, I found out that there is not suitable spot for them but to check with the suzi store.
They said that people make their own and did not make them at the shop.
More research and some have said the tie down points work if you use more of a tow rope and not a snatch strap.
BUT I still need them due to the 4wd club i want to join, it has them as a requirement :/
So what have fellow auszookers been doing to solve this problem? Do they know where I can get them made for me? I could get a new tow bar and bull bar but that is way out of my price range.
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Rhinoman
Joined: Mon May 16, 2011 7:03 pm Posts: 686 Location: Brinkworth, England
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 Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 5:28 am |
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There seems to be a lot of confusion over this issue, the hoops are recovery points, the slots in the chassis are the tie down points:  Do check the that the chassis that the recovery points are fixed to is still sound, especially on the rear.
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 9:05 am |
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My front hoop is only welded to body panels, and is pulling off. I put proper front recovery hooks on. My rear however still looks ok. I'm no engineer, but I would not trust these in hard snatching, just gentle towing.  
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ozzycouch
Joined: Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:23 pm Posts: 256 Location: Maroochydore Sunny Coast
Vehicle: SWB Vit
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 Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 12:20 pm |
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^^^ What they said. This is the rear on my SWB Vit, welded both sides of the chassis rail, looks completely factory. Similar one on the front. Have used it for dragging all sorts of vehicles out, and unlike christover1, hasn't deformed or moved at all. As far as your question, I would have a chat to your club, to see just what they require before you invest to much time and money. 
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Gceozeh
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:45 pm Posts: 114 Location: Maylands
Vehicle: 92 Suzuki Vitara Jx
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 Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 12:48 pm |
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Rhinoman wrote: There seems to be a lot of confusion over this issue, the hoops are recovery points, the slots in the chassis are the tie down points:  Do check the that the chassis that the recovery points are fixed to is still sound, especially on the rear. I will have to have another look. These were what I thought to be the recovery points but was later told they were just tow points cause if i was snatched off them, they would tear off my vehicle. christover1 wrote: My front hoop is only welded to body panels, and is pulling off. I put proper front recovery hooks on.
My rear however still looks ok.
I'm no engineer, but I would not trust these in hard snatching, just gentle towing. 'if you have proper recovery points on, where have you been able to attach them to? I was told i could attach them to where the tow points are because the part they were attached to is again weak and would tear.
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 1:18 pm |
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My fronts are attached to bull bar, you can just see in top left of pic.
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 1:19 pm |
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I would trust that hoop welded to both sides of chassis
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Rhinoman
Joined: Mon May 16, 2011 7:03 pm Posts: 686 Location: Brinkworth, England
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 Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 7:30 pm |
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christover1 wrote: I'm no engineer, but I would not trust these in hard snatching, just gentle towing.  I have recovery points built in to my winch bar now but if I was still using the original hoops I would be running outside now and running a bit more weld around that join. I don't think Suzuki were intending them to be used for snatch recovery.
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 7:36 pm |
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Wasn't me, was like that when I bought it. Having recently seen pix from previous owner, it wasn't babied.
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Rhinoman
Joined: Mon May 16, 2011 7:03 pm Posts: 686 Location: Brinkworth, England
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 Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 8:59 pm |
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bits4vits used to make some recovery bars, do an image search for those, they would be relatively easy to copy
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 9:04 pm |
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Rhinoman wrote: bits4vits used to make some recovery bars, do an image search for those, they would be relatively easy to copy They only suit the Sierras and the Vitaras with the tubed front chassis member. An extra tube is pressed through the original tube member. Many LWB, like mine, have a boxed type front member.
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Gceozeh
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:45 pm Posts: 114 Location: Maylands
Vehicle: 92 Suzuki Vitara Jx
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 10:20 pm |
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This recovery bar slips through the front crossmember chassis tube on a SWB / 3-door Vitara ONLY (The LWB / 5-door and the X90 have a different configuration front chassis) and provides two bow-shackle (3.25Ton Blue Pinned) recovery points at the front of your Vit'.
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