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Zuzukie
Joined: Tue Mar 27, 2012 3:13 pm Posts: 194
Vehicle: 82 1ltr, 93 1.3 with 6.5's
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 Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:16 am |
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Heya Im looking at buying another zook and don't know what one to go for because of the differences plan is to get 6.5's, cromo axles and run 31's or 33's with a locker or 2 ive heard that for coilys parts are harder to get for them as they were only made for a couple o years but what are the jimnys like for mods and capability off road
Last edited by Zuzukie on Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:21 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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if those are your planned mods, then a leafy is really the only way to go.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:28 am |
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tanshi wrote: if those are your planned mods, then a leafy is really the only way to go.
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Matthew
Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 472 Location: S.E. Melbourne
Vehicle: SWB Sierra
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 Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:42 am |
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atari4x4 wrote: tanshi wrote: if those are your planned mods, then a leafy is really the only way to go.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:46 am |
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It's pointless doing those mods on a coil car- front end strength and suspension design will be a constant frustration. You can't even get cr-mo for a coil sierra, front or rear.
Those mods on a jimny would be cool if it could be kept under 26" of suspension lift, but apparently that's not possible. Much more costly though, and the required guard work is a pain from what I have seen. Front end strength is still a issue, but there are fixes, although they are costly/a hassle.
Steve.
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Matthew
Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 472 Location: S.E. Melbourne
Vehicle: SWB Sierra
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 Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 12:06 pm |
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You and your helpful answers Steve, you were meant to continue the quote tree OP, have a read through some of the jimny build threads to get an idea of what needs doing to fit largish tyres to a jimny. Also think about body damage, a soft top sierra is much easier to repair if you take out an "A" pillar on an embankment compared to a hardtop vehicle. You would probably want to exo a jimny.
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31zook
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9242 Location: maito
Vehicle: <3 Edna <3
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 Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:23 pm |
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If you have no real budget issuses get a Jimny.
Comes with PS/AC/injection, has a longer wheelbase then a SWB Sierra. And won't come with heaps of 'keep it running work'
The guards are easily trimmed with either tinsnips/jigsaw/grinder. An SJ case bolts in and Airlockers fit both front and back diffs.
Chromoly axles etc is where you run into some problems. No one mass produces anything, so for me it's been custom all the way and experimenting with types of axles and CVs.
My build threa is here somewhere and has all the info.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:34 pm |
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I completely agree with you there 31zook, except that there looks to be a "hard limit" where further (inner) guard trimming will become very difficult, and far harder than a Sierra. Mitch was up against this with his jimny- cutting further the he did looked almost impossible.
As the op is asking about maybe 33's I think that's relevant- I haven't seen a jimny on tyres over 32 that looked like a sensible height, except for massively cut up Scandinavian cars.
Steve.
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31zook
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9242 Location: maito
Vehicle: <3 Edna <3
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 Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:08 pm |
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Yep yep. I think the limit for a Jimny is about 31s without heaps of height or pretty well making new inner guards front and rear. Although it only normally takes one guy working it out and the rest follow.
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Zuzukie
Joined: Tue Mar 27, 2012 3:13 pm Posts: 194
Vehicle: 82 1ltr, 93 1.3 with 6.5's
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 Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:39 pm |
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soft top sierra it is then I had a 93 wt but wasn't sure about the differences between coilys and jimnys due to the coil suspension and aftermarket parts And as matthew said above a soft top is easier to repair if there happens to be a bit of a hit with a bank or the rocks
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303zuke

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Joined: Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2447
Vehicle: LJ50V, SJ70
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 Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 4:00 pm |
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Gwagensteve wrote: Those mods on a jimny would be cool if it could be kept under 26" of suspension lift, but apparently that's not possible. Steve. I disagree. I think it's quite possible to have less than 26" suspension lift in a Jimny! 
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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It was a joke 303. (sort of)
The OP wants 31's or 33's.
It is possible to run a Jimny low on 31's, and I've seen one low on narrow 32's, but on 33's they are all overly high (as in falloverly high) and I'd say the advantage of the big tyres is almost totally offset by the ride height increase.
I spent quite a while with Mitch going through what looked to be possible in terms of guard work on his car, and it got super complex trying to go into the firewall, or further up than the stock inner guard. I'd love to try it one day when Jimnys are as cheap as carby vitaras are now, but for now it's all a bit too much of a hassle.
Steve.
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
Vehicle: G13BB Jimny
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 Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:12 pm |
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Zuzukie wrote: And as matthew said above a soft top is easier to repair if there happens to be a bit of a hit with a bank or the rocks The exact reason I wouldn't own a hardtop for hard wheeling.  
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31zook
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9242 Location: maito
Vehicle: <3 Edna <3
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 Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:28 pm |
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You don't have to wreck your car to wheel it hard.
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
Vehicle: G13BB Jimny
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 Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:46 pm |
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That's not what I said.
If you are into hard wheeling, the opportunity for damage/roll over is high.
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Zuzukie
Joined: Tue Mar 27, 2012 3:13 pm Posts: 194
Vehicle: 82 1ltr, 93 1.3 with 6.5's
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 Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:54 pm |
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What kind of punishment can a fibreglass canopy take I know it wouldnt take a roll like sierradans did but just how much can they take
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:58 pm |
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Meh. They split pretty easy. They can be repaired, but generally the guys in the club here with 'glass tops take them off for the hard trips.
Steve.
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31zook
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9242 Location: maito
Vehicle: <3 Edna <3
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 Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 6:21 pm |
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SierraDan wrote: If you are into hard wheeling, the opportunity for damage/roll over is high.
Well true!
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Red89
Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2801 Location: Perth
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Zuzukie wrote: What kind of punishment can a fibreglass canopy take I know it wouldnt take a roll like sierradans did but just how much can they take They take a fair bit of punishment, mine only started splitting after being dragged over the rocks a few times, I had more dramas with the side and rear windows popping out as the fibreglass flexed with the body and the glass didnt.
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Zuzukie
Joined: Tue Mar 27, 2012 3:13 pm Posts: 194
Vehicle: 82 1ltr, 93 1.3 with 6.5's
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 Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 6:43 pm |
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