[Wolf]

Hey guys, was thinking to do a body lift on my jimny, but after having a chat with some people, they told me it was a grey area because a 2" lift is legal, but is it legal when you have airbags, and will insurance still cover you?

Cheers, wolf

[Jezza86]

depends where you are.
from what i understand 2" is all you can lift in Queensland. that 2" at the roof so tyres, springs and bodylift will all come out of that 2" budget

i have 6.85" of overall lift through 3" springs, 2" BL and 1.85" of tyres. i think if you modplated (QLD thing) the body lift then no one would bother to look at the tyres and springs.
in the NT you can just apply to do whatever you want, if it gets approved by the vehicle standards board then your good.

[Wolf]

Dose it affect the airbags tho??

[Jezza86]

if you hit shit hard enough the airbags will still go off. the entire system is built into the body of the car.
legal or not i dont know, but cant see why it wouldnt be legal.

[Wolf]

Might be worth asking qmr, going on monday to go for my ps , i dont think your alowed mod plates on ur ps( silly because ive seen plenty of p plates in 80 dual cab utes) it needs that 2" s

[Scrawny]

Jezza86 wrote:

depends where you are.
from what i understand 2" is all you can lift in Queensland. that 2" at the roof so tyres, springs and bodylift will all come out of that 2" budget

In Qld you are allowed 2" body + 2" spring + tyres

[just_cruizin]

The jimny should be the same as the GV in that the airbags are activated by a g sensor in the dash as apposed to sensors in the bumper, therefore it is possible to legally fit a bodylift. That said you do need a mod plate so it depends on who you get to approve it

[Jezza86]

Scrawn wrote:

Jezza86 wrote:

depends where you are.
from what i understand 2" is all you can lift in Queensland. that 2" at the roof so tyres, springs and bodylift will all come out of that 2" budget

In Qld you are allowed 2" body + 2" spring + tyres

thats bloody good news for me!

[Wolf]

Do i need to mod plate the lift?

[Jezza86]

just_cruizin wrote:

you do need a mod plate so it depends on who you get to approve it

yep.
why is it you want a bodylift exactly? i have one because i do some pretty deep creek crossings.
if its biger tires you want guard trimming is the go

[Blakey]

its better to just look up the regulations rather than hearsay from a forum. especially if you're looking for the legality of stuff.

[Blakey]

under code LS9 of the QCOP ( queenslands verson of the NCOP) you are in suspension allowed a lift of 50mm to 125mm with anything under 75mm does not need certification this does not include Body lift.

max height in suspension alone is 50mm

tyres can be on a 4wd a maximum of 25mm larger in vehicle height.

all body lifts it sounds like they need to be certified.
body lift max height in body blocks alone is 50mm

there is other rules as well.

download this PDF. Click Here

and go to page 52

[Wolf]

Wow, thanks man, ive had to search before on that site and its anoying, thanks very much

[just_cruizin]

Slight mistake Blakey, tyres can lift the vehicle by 25mm therefore have a 50mm increase in diameter but is saying that you could legally fit larger tyres but run a pressure in them to provide 25mm of lift

[Blakey]

just_cruizin wrote:

Slight mistake Blakey, tyres can lift the vehicle by 25mm therefore have a 50mm increase in diameter but is saying that you could legally fit larger tyres but run a pressure in them to provide 25mm of lift

what did i say wrong?

if your tyre lifts the vehicle more then 25mm then its technically illegally modified.

also i have found a mistake in the QCOP in one section they say under 75mm does not require a lane change test, then a couple pages down is say greater then 50mm requires a lane change test.

[just_cruizin]

Blakey wrote:

tyres can be on a 4wd a maximum of 25mm larger in vehicle height

Tyres can lift the vehicle 25mm

[just_cruizin]

Plus you edited the post after mine

[Wolf]

O_o??? All i know for a jimny is that 30s are 30mm over the legal limit haha

[Blakey]

just_cruizin wrote:

Plus you edited the post after mine

I never changed the tyre part. I had always said what you have quoted. Which is right. Increase in tyre can only increase vehicle height by 25mm.
I removed something I said about body lifts. Which was worded badly and could of caused confusion. So I removed it.

Other than that I changed nothing in my post.

[henno]

Let's just agree that 25mm of lift = 50mm of extra tyre diameter, nod and smile, and move on to the real issue: how long until this zook is stolen.

[jimny_timmy]

Wolf wrote:

O_o??? All i know for a jimny is that 30s are 30mm over the legal limit haha

50mm

[Blakey]

henno wrote:

Let's just agree that 25mm of lift = 50mm of extra tyre diameter, nod and smile, and move on to the real issue: how long until this zook is stolen.

while yes 50mm dia does make a 25mm height difference i never said anything on a diameter I said 25mm vehicle height. and the QCOP mentions a vehicle height not diameter, so really i was never wrong.

not saying he is wrong just pointing out i was not wrong.

they can try and steal mine wont get much tho. or get it very far without a towtruck

[alien]

pretty sure QLD's rules are a reflection of WA's - in which case its 50mm including tyres/suspension & body lift... after that it needs engineering. over 150mm they won't even consider. there's also rules on rim width, track increase and tyre size increase (if you exceed tyre size increase you also need to do brakes testing).

IMO - consult an engineer - most will talk to you about your planned mods for free.

[Wolf]

Whos cars getting stolen 0_o??? And thanks guys for the info, much apriciated

[Blakey]

alien wrote:

pretty sure QLD's rules are a reflection of WA's - in which case its 50mm including tyres/suspension & body lift... after that it needs engineering. over 150mm they won't even consider. there's also rules on rim width, track increase and tyre size increase (if you exceed tyre size increase you also need to do brakes testing).

IMO - consult an engineer - most will talk to you about your planned mods for free.

QLD is 75mm and under does not need certification this includes suspension and tyres only, body lift will always require certification.

[henno]

Wolf wrote:

Whos cars getting stolen 0_o???

Sorry, just a bit of a dark joke. A few zooks on AZ (mine included) have been stolen of late.

[Zook_Fan]

alien wrote:

pretty sure QLD's rules are a reflection of WA's - in which case its 50mm including tyres/suspension & body lift... after that it needs engineering. over 150mm they won't even consider. there's also rules on rim width, track increase and tyre size increase (if you exceed tyre size increase you also need to do brakes testing).

IMO - consult an engineer - most will talk to you about your planned mods for free.

We've never had that. It was proposed but the new QLD rules are exactly what everyone else in the thread has said.

[Wolf]

^ so thats a total of 75mm???

P.s henno, my bro got his ute stollen last year from up here, cops found it at the nsw vic border

[Zook_Fan]

http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/~/media/Safet ... OP0214.pdf

Blakey sumarised it, if you've got more questions read it. Way better than a bunch of unkown people telling you all the wrong things.

[B1GBOAR]

done some research, from my understanding body lifts are illegal unless plated no exceptions. Suspension and Tyre lift up to 2" no worry what so ever, lift up to 75mm combined comes under QCOP, it has to follow their rules but no plate needed nor swerve test. Above 75mm to 125mm total lift needs mod plate and swerve test. costs a $1000 plus to have done in qld plus approx $160 to $250 depends on engineer.

Straight from the horses mouth and Qcop documents. This is the latest, but is reveiwed every 2 years.

My advice Lower your tyre pressures, up the load in your car (tools ect) this can drop like 30mm plus of ride height. especially in small jimnys, very very quickly lol