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Joshyboy26
Joined: Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:48 pm Posts: 814 Location: kinglake, VIC
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Hi guys, a bit of brainstorming and thinking out loud here. I have a sierra with a 4age 20v and am struggling to keep rear diffs in it. I am building a ute and want to keep a sierra front diff but I am thinking of a bundy rear diff housing with a spooled 3.7 hilux centre and 300m custom axles. I want to cut the housing to standard zook width. The question is will lux axles fit through sierra front spindles? That way i could keep 5 stud rims all round and run sierra front brakes on the rear. Otherwise id have to run hilux front spindles but i want to stay away from this. I beleive tanshi?? Was doing something similar with cj7 spindles or something. I tried looking but couldnt find it. I basically want to do this to keep the 3.7 ratio as i happy with my gearing at the moment and ive seen the vic zook boys snap a few vit floater axles and i want a bulletproof diff setup that i can tim cameron on and be sure itll be fine. Anyway anyones input and ideas are appreciated Cheers! 
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Zook_Fan

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Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4530 Location: Toowoomba
Vehicle: Maruti and LJ80's
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 Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 3:12 pm |
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Tim Cameron regularly breaks his rig  There's no way that a hilux shaft will fit through a sierra spindle. A 26 spline chromo barely does, hilux stuff is way bigger. What tyre size are you running?
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Joshyboy26
Joined: Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:48 pm Posts: 814 Location: kinglake, VIC
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 Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 3:23 pm |
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34s at the moment but 35s arent unlikely in the future.
Also should say ill be linking it so ride height and all that jazz wont be an issue
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got_bar_work
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 8:30 pm Posts: 2214 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SQ625
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The jeep cj7 spindles would be the go or some big f150 stuff that run the 5x5.5 stud pattern
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Joshyboy26
Joined: Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:48 pm Posts: 814 Location: kinglake, VIC
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 Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 5:47 pm |
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Hmm yeah ok might be worth a look at that
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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cj7 spindles wont fit lux sized cvs either.
you will need dana44 f100 spindles or similar.
if gone through all the options and your gonna spend a shit load of money to get the result you want.
your better off giving up on 5 stud and throwing a pair of cut down lux or cruiser diffs in.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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^ this, because if you do start going full timmay on it, you'll be trashing the front end too, and upgrading that will be a huge trial.
I say go full width hilux/bundera with 70 series spindles welded in for a full float with disks and run more rim backspace.
Steve.
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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I have a mate who is looking at getting some wheel bearing hubs machined to suit hilux spindles but with 5 stud hubs.
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Joshyboy26
Joined: Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:48 pm Posts: 814 Location: kinglake, VIC
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 Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 10:49 am |
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Why 70 series spindles?
Will i be able to run enough offset to bring me back to my width now or will i be a fair bit wider?
I am trying to keep the zook narrowness and lightness but its slowly going out the window haha
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 11:17 am |
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The 20v is what's going to eliminate the lightness.
I suggested 70 series spindles to allow a full float rear axle with discs. I guess 80 could be used too.
Regardless the whole job is going to cost a fair bit of money so it doesn't make any sense to stick with 5 stud rims.
If you use ifs hilux or 80 Series rims you'll go pretty close to your current width.
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Joshyboy26
Joined: Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:48 pm Posts: 814 Location: kinglake, VIC
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 Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 1:31 pm |
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Hmm, i did read your full floater thread steve and by that you think dt s are stronger than a lux front which means i need chromos in it or else im taking a step backwards.
I also find that im not putting a lot of pressure on thefront as it rarely is heavily weighted and on the gas at the same time.
This seems to be were i keep breaking rears on steep hills and on the power.
This is why im thinking only rear.
That keeps my weight down in the front and the cost also haha!
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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It's the r&p that will go unless you keep taking out hub bolts endlessly. It'll be landing a bounce that will do it, when the weight of the 20v and high rpm will hurt it.
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Joshyboy26
Joined: Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:48 pm Posts: 814 Location: kinglake, VIC
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 Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 5:15 am |
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If i was to use 70 series spindles would i use rear spindles to get a handbrake or will a drive flange not bolt up to the hub?
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 5:50 am |
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Rear spindles. Or else weld a hilux spindle pattern to the bundy rear to run hilux front hubs and spindles (like Sierra front only bigger) all round with no handbrake.
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 8:27 am |
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IM actually working on a full floater converson for lux diffs at the moment but its a ways off
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Joshyboy26
Joined: Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:48 pm Posts: 814 Location: kinglake, VIC
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 Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:07 am |
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:41 am |
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in the researching stages.
using lux front spindles and hubs, db555 disks i believe and mazda calipers.
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Joshyboy26
Joined: Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:48 pm Posts: 814 Location: kinglake, VIC
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 Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 12:35 pm |
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dank
Joined: Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1157 Location: VIC
Vehicle: WR250F/Jeep XJ
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You can buy the D35C with full floater warn kit and locker and the D30HP front with locker off my XJ if you want them! 3.55:1 though.
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Joshyboy26
Joined: Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:48 pm Posts: 814 Location: kinglake, VIC
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 Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 9:06 pm |
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:59 am |
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remeber that the jeep has a left hand pumpkin
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 8:18 am |
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Joshyboy26
Joined: Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:48 pm Posts: 814 Location: kinglake, VIC
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 Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 1:23 pm |
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And i was just reading that they are weak as haha nah sorry dan not interested
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 5:19 pm |
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Weak um no. They sit behind a 4 litre motor. And they are chromo full floater. Dan ran them on his jeep on 34s some how i wouldnt call them weak. But not suitable for what you need
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Joshyboy26
Joined: Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:48 pm Posts: 814 Location: kinglake, VIC
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 Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 8:00 am |
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Well there you go. Ah well still wrong tho
Hey thanks for your help guys im now looking for a luxy and bundy diff and get this build happening!
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