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sik97zook
Joined: Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:01 am Posts: 22 Location: sale Victoria
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Hi all
i would like some more power in my 97 coil 1.3L sierra, it has a set of 30" maxxis bighorns on it. yet i have a budget of $1000 give or take.
i dont no if i should go for a
*different engine mayb?
*bolt some thing on to my stock 1.3(eg turbo?)
* or keep the 1.3 and change my gears
Is there any thing els that could do?
Thanks for any help im a bit of a noobie at this stuff. 
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Rusho

Tubby Elfsdong
Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 6501 Location: Northside, Brisbane
Vehicle: Coily Sierra
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Deal with it for now...save your pennies and do a 1.6 efi conversion 
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
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I asked the pretty much the same question for my jimny.
Everyone told me to fix the gearing.
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sik97zook
Joined: Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:01 am Posts: 22 Location: sale Victoria
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Rusho wrote: Deal with it for now...save your pennies and do a 1.6 efi conversion 
how much would that be worth all up?
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inbits
Joined: Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:30 am Posts: 600 Location: qld
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I'd be getting gears it will make the world of difference on and offroad though it won't be a power house it will be much more drivable
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Rusho

Tubby Elfsdong
Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 6501 Location: Northside, Brisbane
Vehicle: Coily Sierra
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sik97zook wrote: Rusho wrote: Deal with it for now...save your pennies and do a 1.6 efi conversion  how much would that be worth all up?
How long is a piece of string??? You have the right fuel tank, but you will also need:
-Adaptor kit
-Vit style in tank fuel pump
-Loom modification
-90 degree adaptor for dizzy
-Various hoses/lines etc
If your not handy with the tools this could easily cost in excess of $2-3k.
Gearing would be a cheaper alternative, but you have a coily so  Tfer case swap is simple enough but again, you need a few things. Diff gears...not 100% if what you could do there 
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atari4x4

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monkey wrote: I asked the pretty much the same question for my jimny.
Everyone told me to fix the gearing.
+993
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Ben_Sierra

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Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4472 Location: Perth
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Gearing!
Even with a 1.6 the gearing will still be all wrong, and it'll still be nowhere near as good as properly geared with a 1.3!
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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For $500 you should be able to buy a 1.0L transfer case and fit it to your coily with the necessary mods and get a good gearing reduction to suit your 30's.
Use the other $500 to get some extractors and a 2" exhaust system and thats as good as you can get on your budget.
1.6L EFi swap will set you back $2-4K.
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DMAC

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Joined: Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1612 Location: North Brisbane
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Don't discount a cam regrind best power mod I have done. Coupled with 2" exhaust is a nice combo. Regrind cost around $150 - $170.
Gears don't give you more power it changes your mechanical advantage giving the perception you have more power but they should be on your list.
Like most other responses 1.6 would be the way to go for power. Doing one at the moment cost around $2k but it can have it hassles too.
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whincup

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DMAC wrote: Gears don't give you more power it changes your mechanical advantage giving the perception you have more power but they should be on your list.
depends where you measure the power from. it does actually give you more power at the wheels...
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bagnkat

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I have a coily with 30s. My vote is for gearing too.
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Ben_Sierra

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Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4472 Location: Perth
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whincup wrote: DMAC wrote: Gears don't give you more power it changes your mechanical advantage giving the perception you have more power but they should be on your list. depends where you measure the power from. it does actually give you more power at the wheels...
Strictly speaking, no it doesn't...
It gives you more torque at the wheels, but the power isn't changed...
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Barnster
Joined: Wed May 12, 2010 1:01 am Posts: 16 Location: Mid North Coast
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Why go to all that hassle with spending 2-4K on conversion of a Sierra.Just go and buy a Vitara with a EFI 1.6 in it ready to go???
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Ben_Sierra

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Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4472 Location: Perth
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Barnster wrote: Why go to all that hassle with spending 2-4K on conversion of a Sierra.Just go and buy a Vitara with a EFI 1.6 in it ready to go???
Don't start that again....
Anyway, a properly geared 1.3 Sierra will be a huge difference to 30s without gearing. It is definitely the way to go.
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31zook
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9242 Location: maito
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gearing X a bajiliant. you will spend allot more doing power up's then just doing a tcase swap and gearing...
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ZookiMonsta
Joined: Sun Aug 23, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1625 Location: Jimboomba
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I've got a supercharger set up here... wanna buy it? 
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31zook
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9242 Location: maito
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for what motor? how much?
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want33s

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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8134 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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Gear it...... Then repower it....
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whincup

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Ben_Sierra wrote: whincup wrote: DMAC wrote: Gears don't give you more power it changes your mechanical advantage giving the perception you have more power but they should be on your list. depends where you measure the power from. it does actually give you more power at the wheels... Strictly speaking, no it doesn't... It gives you more torque at the wheels, but the power isn't changed... yeah, thats what i meant, sorry, i should have been more specific. gearing fixes the problem created from having bigger tires. simple physics, torque = force x distance. you increase the distance (or diameter of the tyres) you also have to increase the torque. thats what lower gears do... it really depends on what sik97 is after. speed, or just a little more grunt... want33s wrote: Gear it...... Then repower it....
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Ben_Sierra

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Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4472 Location: Perth
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Even with the extra power, it'll still be a dog without decent gearing...
Plus more power, big tyres and no gearing is not gonna be great on the clutch, or the rest of the driveline for that matter...
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coneykid
Joined: Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 388 Location: bundy
Vehicle: suzuki sierra coily
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I got a 1L transfer here and 5.12 diff centers. But a bit far away.
Bundaberg 4670 if you keen
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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coneykid wrote: I got a 1L transfer here and 5.12 diff centers. But a bit far away. Bundaberg 4670 if you keen
Chuck the tinny in the water and go for a blat up to bundy 
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sik97zook
Joined: Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:01 am Posts: 22 Location: sale Victoria
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coneykid wrote: I got a 1L transfer here and 5.12 diff centers. But a bit far away. Bundaberg 4670 if you keen
yeah mate im keen! but your right Bundaberg is bit far away.
Thanks every one for the help looks like gears are the way.
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sik97zook
Joined: Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:01 am Posts: 22 Location: sale Victoria
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Fatzook wrote: coneykid wrote: I got a 1L transfer here and 5.12 diff centers. But a bit far away. Bundaberg 4670 if you keen Chuck the tinny in the water and go for a blat up to bundy 
hmmmm i do need a holiday 
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
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Just re gear it. Everyone i know that does power upgrades break heaps of stuff. Even tho my sierra was slow i never broke any driveline bits. No busted axles, t/case mounts, diffs or unis.
Hell if i was as hard on it with more grunt it would have died years ago.
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