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Post Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:35 am 
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Hi all

i would like some more power in my 97 coil 1.3L sierra, it has a set of 30" maxxis bighorns on it. yet i have a budget of $1000 give or take. :(

i dont no if i should go for a :?
*different engine mayb?
*bolt some thing on to my stock 1.3(eg turbo?)
* or keep the 1.3 and change my gears

Is there any thing els that could do?
Thanks for any help im a bit of a noobie at this stuff. :oops:

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Post Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:36 am 
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Deal with it for now...save your pennies and do a 1.6 efi conversion :wink:

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Post Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:37 am 
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I asked the pretty much the same question for my jimny.

Everyone told me to fix the gearing.

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Deal with it for now...save your pennies and do a 1.6 efi conversion :wink:


how much would that be worth all up?

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Post Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:38 am 
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I'd be getting gears it will make the world of difference on and offroad though it won't be a power house it will be much more drivable

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Post Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:52 am 
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Rusho wrote:
Deal with it for now...save your pennies and do a 1.6 efi conversion :wink:


how much would that be worth all up?


How long is a piece of string??? You have the right fuel tank, but you will also need:

-Adaptor kit
-Vit style in tank fuel pump
-Loom modification
-90 degree adaptor for dizzy
-Various hoses/lines etc

If your not handy with the tools this could easily cost in excess of $2-3k.

Gearing would be a cheaper alternative, but you have a coily so :roll: Tfer case swap is simple enough but again, you need a few things. Diff gears...not 100% if what you could do there :? :?

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Post Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:12 am 
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I asked the pretty much the same question for my jimny.

Everyone told me to fix the gearing.


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Post Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:43 am 
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Gearing!

Even with a 1.6 the gearing will still be all wrong, and it'll still be nowhere near as good as properly geared with a 1.3!

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Post Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:05 am 
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For $500 you should be able to buy a 1.0L transfer case and fit it to your coily with the necessary mods and get a good gearing reduction to suit your 30's.

Use the other $500 to get some extractors and a 2" exhaust system and thats as good as you can get on your budget.

1.6L EFi swap will set you back $2-4K.

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Post Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:16 am 
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Don't discount a cam regrind best power mod I have done. Coupled with 2" exhaust is a nice combo. Regrind cost around $150 - $170.

Gears don't give you more power it changes your mechanical advantage giving the perception you have more power but they should be on your list.

Like most other responses 1.6 would be the way to go for power. Doing one at the moment cost around $2k but it can have it hassles too.

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Post Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:29 am 
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Gears don't give you more power it changes your mechanical advantage giving the perception you have more power but they should be on your list.


depends where you measure the power from. it does actually give you more power at the wheels...

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Post Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:30 am 
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I have a coily with 30s. My vote is for gearing too.

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Post Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:56 am 
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DMAC wrote:
Gears don't give you more power it changes your mechanical advantage giving the perception you have more power but they should be on your list.


depends where you measure the power from. it does actually give you more power at the wheels...


Strictly speaking, no it doesn't...

It gives you more torque at the wheels, but the power isn't changed...

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Post Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:20 am 
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Why go to all that hassle with spending 2-4K on conversion of a Sierra.Just go and buy a Vitara with a EFI 1.6 in it ready to go???

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Post Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:32 am 
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Why go to all that hassle with spending 2-4K on conversion of a Sierra.Just go and buy a Vitara with a EFI 1.6 in it ready to go???


Don't start that again.... :roll:

Anyway, a properly geared 1.3 Sierra will be a huge difference to 30s without gearing. It is definitely the way to go.

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Post Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:33 am 
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gearing X a bajiliant. you will spend allot more doing power up's then just doing a tcase swap and gearing...

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Post Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 8:35 am 
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I've got a supercharger set up here... wanna buy it? :wink:

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Post Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:05 am 
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for what motor? how much?

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Post Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:24 am 
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Gear it...... Then repower it....

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Post Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:11 am 
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Ben_Sierra wrote:
whincup wrote:
DMAC wrote:
Gears don't give you more power it changes your mechanical advantage giving the perception you have more power but they should be on your list.


depends where you measure the power from. it does actually give you more power at the wheels...


Strictly speaking, no it doesn't...

It gives you more torque at the wheels, but the power isn't changed...


yeah, thats what i meant, sorry, i should have been more specific. gearing fixes the problem created from having bigger tires. simple physics, torque = force x distance. you increase the distance (or diameter of the tyres) you also have to increase the torque. thats what lower gears do... it really depends on what sik97 is after. speed, or just a little more grunt...

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Gear it...... Then repower it....


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Post Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:48 am 
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Even with the extra power, it'll still be a dog without decent gearing...

Plus more power, big tyres and no gearing is not gonna be great on the clutch, or the rest of the driveline for that matter...

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Post Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:44 pm 
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I got a 1L transfer here and 5.12 diff centers. But a bit far away.
Bundaberg 4670 if you keen

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Post Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 8:57 pm 
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I got a 1L transfer here and 5.12 diff centers. But a bit far away.
Bundaberg 4670 if you keen


Chuck the tinny in the water and go for a blat up to bundy :wink:

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:53 am 
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I got a 1L transfer here and 5.12 diff centers. But a bit far away.
Bundaberg 4670 if you keen


yeah mate im keen! but your right Bundaberg is bit far away.


Thanks every one for the help looks like gears are the way.

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:02 am 
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coneykid wrote:
I got a 1L transfer here and 5.12 diff centers. But a bit far away.
Bundaberg 4670 if you keen


Chuck the tinny in the water and go for a blat up to bundy :wink:


hmmmm i do need a holiday :P

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:14 am 
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Just re gear it. Everyone i know that does power upgrades break heaps of stuff. Even tho my sierra was slow i never broke any driveline bits. No busted axles, t/case mounts, diffs or unis.

Hell if i was as hard on it with more grunt it would have died years ago.

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