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skelly
Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:21 am Posts: 53
Vehicle: 1994 Suzuki Sierra 1.3
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I want to put a 10L Jerry can on the outside of My Sierra but I'm unsure of where I could put a Holder and I don't want to make up a rear bar. I was thinking about making up a bracket that Could mount onto the spare wheel but not sure If the studs holding the wheel would be strong enough. Thoughts?
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Dr_Snapid
Joined: Mon Jul 26, 2010 11:57 am Posts: 649 Location: Grafton
Vehicle: 2003 Jimny Auto
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 Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 9:24 pm |
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Thats only 7kg of fuel plus the container...
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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 Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 9:26 pm |
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Wheels studs/ mount will do it easily.
Its the tailgate hinges that will break.
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DarkHorse

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Joined: Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 5413
Vehicle: 08 SV650
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Isn't it illegal to carry fuel containers on the back of a car? Risk of explosion in an accident?
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
Vehicle: Awesome!!
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I didn't bother with the 10L and went with the 20L. Made up a nice alloy bracket to hold it:  And strengthened the door skin hinge area with some steel angle:  More info on strengthening here viewtopic.php?f=14&t=18566~2 years and the tailgate hasn't fallen off yet with all that weight hanging of it 
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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Great Zooky type thinking, I'm liking that, may steal the idea for me Vit.
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DarkHorse

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Joined: Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 5413
Vehicle: 08 SV650
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 Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 12:23 pm |
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Not sure it'd be as easy for us Christo, what with our pretty concealed hinges and curvy panels. Worth a look though. I'm actually more concerned about the strength of the door skin where the spare carrier bolts on. Beefing up that whole arrangement has been on the to-do list for a while.
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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I beefed up behind the Vits spare mount, when I lifted the mount up. Mostly my jerries will be on the trailer. A small metal one lives in the car, never gives off fumes. Unlike the plastic ones seem to.
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speedyblue
Joined: Tue May 15, 2012 1:14 pm Posts: 49
Vehicle: Jimny/110 Landy
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DarkHorse wrote: Isn't it illegal to carry fuel containers on the back of a car? Risk of explosion in an accident? Yes very illegal for the jerrycan to be behind the rear bumper, unless you are carrying water. Petrol is a big no. Diesel may be OK though, but not many diesel zooks around. There is a good chance of a fireball in a crash.
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Poita
Joined: Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:03 am Posts: 553 Location: Adelaide, SA
Vehicle: 2010 Suzuki Swift Sports
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Where can you carry it then? On the roof or in the cab?
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TZAR

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Joined: Tue Aug 01, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 3461 Location: licking some windows
Vehicle: LJ20 LJ50
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Joshyboy26
Joined: Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:48 pm Posts: 814 Location: kinglake, VIC
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so you can tow a trailer and put three bikes on there as well
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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^^^^ looks like another qwality product from ODA
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TZAR

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Joined: Tue Aug 01, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 3461 Location: licking some windows
Vehicle: LJ20 LJ50
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blah blah blah
Qld transport says this and I quote
Jerry cans should be avoided because of the potential fume hazards inside the cabin
FUCK FUCK FUCK
Spent ages finding tons of shit and this fuckin site resets itself before I post.
FACTS it is not illegal. end of fuckin story.
there is nowhere were it states its illegal. You just have to make sure that your jerry can is mounted securely. You cannot have more than 250l or a product with a flash point of less than 60.5 degrees closed cup or 64.5 degrees open test. Diesel is higher so it dont count. This is where the people take some facts and run with them.
Lets imagina a scenario. Soft top sierra has jerry can on the back. gets hit by a commodore. The commodore will be braking and will nose dive. The commodore will miss the jerrycan by fuckin miles and smash straight into your factory tank. Is that illegal???
But then you say what about getting hit by something bigger. If its so big that it will hit the fucking jerry can I dont think you are going to live anyway. Also jerry can are designed to take a massive impact. All you people are imagining the jerrycan exploding and everyone getting showered with burning rain like a scene out of a movie from Vitnam, but when the fuck was the last time you heard about that on the news??? If it was a problem they would police it.
Simple rules, secure your load, dont put he fucking thing somewhere stupid, ( ie bullbar, childs booster seat etc, engine bay) even though its not illegal there and dont be fuckin retarded and port internet crap.
Just a side note what do all you "illegal" people do with your gas bottles when you carry them camping??? They carry a product with a flash point of way less.
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laurie

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Joined: Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1540 Location: Blackbutt
Vehicle: LJ80
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 Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:51 pm |
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i only carry the little throw away gas cans and i store em securely next to my jerry cans just to be on the safe side
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got_bar_work
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 8:30 pm Posts: 2214 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SQ625
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 Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 5:04 pm |
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Wtf Wats the down ball weight on a gv
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TZAR

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Joined: Tue Aug 01, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 3461 Location: licking some windows
Vehicle: LJ20 LJ50
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you buy it if you like. Its for sale on gumtree. and no its not mine. Only $700
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dhula
Joined: Sun Jan 01, 2012 2:05 am Posts: 207 Location: Rockingham, West Oz
Vehicle: 2002 GV V6 and self shifter
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TZAR wrote: What retard did that. Carrying that weight like that is uncool me thinks
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
Vehicle: G13BB Jimny
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Id say thats fair less weight than the retards who pack their camper/caravan/trailer as close to the draw bar as possible and tuck rims for hours on the freeway...
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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SierraDan wrote: Id say thats fair less weight than the retards who pack their camper/caravan/trailer as close to the draw bar as possible and tuck rims for hours on the freeway... The weight is only half the story. The leaverage produced on all the mounting bolts would be outside of design..I believe
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Reubs
Joined: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1522 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SJ80, SE416
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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i assume for that sort of money both the jerry cans are full?
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
Vehicle: G13BB Jimny
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christover1 wrote: SierraDan wrote: Id say thats fair less weight than the retards who pack their camper/caravan/trailer as close to the draw bar as possible and tuck rims for hours on the freeway... The weight is only half the story. The leaverage produced on all the mounting bolts would be outside of design..I believe Absolutely. I had a bike rack break with my bike on it once. But the weight on the tow bar isn't that mental compared to some things you see on the road 
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303zuke

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Joined: Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2447
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atari4x4 wrote: i assume for that sort of money both the jerry cans are full? With 98RON?
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Reubs
Joined: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1522 Location: Brisbane
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303zuke wrote: atari4x4 wrote: i assume for that sort of money both the jerry cans are full? With 151 Proof? Fixed... 
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
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303zuke wrote: atari4x4 wrote: i assume for that sort of money both the jerry cans are full? With 98RON? 100RON
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skelly
Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:21 am Posts: 53
Vehicle: 1994 Suzuki Sierra 1.3
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JrZook wrote: I didn't bother with the 10L and went with the 20L. Made up a nice alloy bracket to hold it:  And strengthened the door skin hinge area with some steel angle:  More info on strengthening here http://www.auszookers.com/forum/viewtop ... 14&t=18566~2 years and the tailgate hasn't fallen off yet with all that weight hanging of it  I think that set up will block my rear handle I have a hardtop and it's in a differnt location then a Soft top I think. If I mount it there it will be right over my handle.
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Scales

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Joined: Mon May 30, 2011 9:28 am Posts: 2233 Location: Townsville
Vehicle: 03 Jim M13A no-vvt, Vinyl Spec
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there is no WAY that vitara is legal, and im not referring to the fact they are fuel jerrys. Anyone with half a brain cell can see thats not safe. would bend in half on the most pissant pothole.
im stunned.
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shakes
Joined: Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 4895 Location: Northcote
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 Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:27 pm |
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I'm not so sure on that. That style of bike rack is normally rated to around 50-60kg max load.
15kg per jerry x 2 20-30kg? for the spare.
All depends on his towbar. In vic it's illegal to have those racks on unless you are carrying a bike...
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