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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
Vehicle: suzuki
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 Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 7:06 am |
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ok i am after some feedback on the 3000lb-4000lb ebay winches
they can be had for around $100
BUT is any one on here ACTUALLY running one??? i have scene some small winches work wonders on suzukis before with double line pull's etc
any genuine feedback pls?
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
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ellis
Joined: Wed Sep 08, 2010 8:28 am Posts: 445 Location: GYMPIE QLD
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sbbunno
Joined: Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 420 Location: Perth/bunbury
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 Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 11:20 am |
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i think every one hear runs the 9500lb winches, that does sound little dodgey.
though i run a 4500lb winch i got for 400, works good for pulling me or small jobs round the block, but i wouldn pull a bigger car out.
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Ben_Sierra

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Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4472 Location: Perth
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Personally, I always go wheeling with someone else and a snatch strap, I reckon thats the safest way
I wouldn't wanna be out bush with my winch as my only hope of getting out when stuck... And if I was in that situation, I'd want the best winch that money can buy...
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kenn
Joined: Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1202 Location: Melbourne
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Would you bye a cheap hooker  NO cause you would end up with something you dont want...
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3cyl
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 2054 Location: Ipswich
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 Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 7:23 pm |
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I have a 3500 lb cheap ass ebay one on the 50, it saved me a couple of times and failed a couple of times. Fixed it a couple of times too but I shouldn't have bothered. When they decide to drop out of gear on a 45 degree slope when you've pulled out a tyre stem the temptation is to throw it.
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CairnsZook

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Joined: Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 872 Location: West Coast
Vehicle: Zookless
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Haha -Good one Kenn
I've got a cheap winch. It's called a Magnum. It's a little bit cheaper than a Warn...
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the-ninja-kid
Joined: Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:25 pm Posts: 265 Location: North Brisbane
Vehicle: My12 Defender 90
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Cheap winches = rubbish build quality. . . that said my ride ryder hasn't failed once yet. . . its pulled range rovers and pootrols out pulled myself and a rangerover out at the same time with a snatch-block. I can really fault it other than its noisy. . . still spend the money if you can. if i had more money i would have bought a better winch.
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jamo
Joined: Sat Jan 22, 2011 7:09 pm Posts: 64 Location: Smithton, TAS
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Hi Jonno. I've ordered one for the car trailer. Might have to put it in the Zook instead. See how it goes.
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ajsr

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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 3712 Location: melb
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you can pickup 6000 lb 1/2 size drum winches on ebay every so often for arount $250.
thats the minimum I think you would want to run if you are proper stuck.
Ive had one on my rig for 2 years now and its saved me and others a few times.
Ive also seen people burn out or break one like you are looking at on the first semi reasonable winch.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/12V-6000lbs-Elec ... 3f065ca4ac
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
Vehicle: suzuki
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 Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:54 pm |
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thanks for the imput guys...
i never go wheeling on my own, and i only want it for very small helping hands...
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ajsr

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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 3712 Location: melb
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jonno_racing wrote: thanks for the imput guys... i never go wheeling on my own, and i only want it for very small helping hands...
if your really stuck you NEED to be able to pull at least 1.5 times the weight of your car easily. In serious mud it maybe 2x your cars weight
6000 lbs = 2700 kg
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14499 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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thanks for the link jonno, i have one coming for my trailer.
the little winch that i had on the back of my swb worked ok through a
snatch block. in fact i cant remember it not getting me out of a bog when
using the snatch block

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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
Vehicle: suzuki
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ajsr wrote: jonno_racing wrote: thanks for the imput guys... i never go wheeling on my own, and i only want it for very small helping hands... if your really stuck you NEED to be able to pull at least 1.5 times the weight of your car easily. In serious mud it maybe 2x your cars weight 6000 lbs = 2700 kg
in saying that a 3000lb on a double line pull will do the job?
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ajsr

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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 3712 Location: melb
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jonno_racing wrote: ajsr wrote: jonno_racing wrote: thanks for the imput guys... i never go wheeling on my own, and i only want it for very small helping hands... if your really stuck you NEED to be able to pull at least 1.5 times the weight of your car easily. In serious mud it maybe 2x your cars weight 6000 lbs = 2700 kg in saying that a 3000lb on a double line pull will do the job?
Ive seen two of them fail now, that my 6000 ended up recovering.
so the answer is maybe, the problem is everything is small light and thats sort of the opposite of what you really need when winching.
check out the weight of the one of the one I linked for you, its 10 kg at least lighter than say a 9 or 12 k winch but runs a full size gearbox, 1/2 to 2/3rds drum width with a lighter motor.
if you put rope on as well you'd save maybe 2-4 kg
in the end its up to you but a winch that wont pull you out or is busted is just usless weight your swinging off the front of your car
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
Vehicle: suzuki
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 Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:27 pm |
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ajsr wrote: jonno_racing wrote: ajsr wrote: jonno_racing wrote: thanks for the imput guys... i never go wheeling on my own, and i only want it for very small helping hands... if your really stuck you NEED to be able to pull at least 1.5 times the weight of your car easily. In serious mud it maybe 2x your cars weight 6000 lbs = 2700 kg in saying that a 3000lb on a double line pull will do the job? Ive seen two of them fail now, that my 6000 ended up recovering. so the answer is maybe, the problem is everything is small light and thats sort of the opposite of what you really need when winching. check out the weight of the one of the one I linked for you, its 10 kg at least lighter than say a 9 or 12 k winch but runs a full size gearbox, 1/2 to 2/3rds drum width with a lighter motor. if you put rope on as well you'd save maybe 2-4 kg in the end its up to you but a winch that wont pull you out or is busted is just usless weight your swinging off the front of your car
yeah i like the look of the one u linked.. nice price 2.... i will have to have a proper look into the space i have available.
i think i will be ditching the steel cable for synthetic though!
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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ajsr wrote: you can pickup 6000 lb 1/2 size drum winches on ebay every so often for arount $250. thats the minimum I think you would want to run if you are proper stuck. Ive had one on my rig for 2 years now and its saved me and others a few times. Ive also seen people burn out or break one like you are looking at on the first semi reasonable winch. http://cgi.ebay.com.au/12V-6000lbs-Elec ... 3f065ca4ac
that's what i'm looking at, narrow drum 6000lb.
as phil said add some rope to it & a couple long extension straps to get the length & you've got a decent sized winch that only weighs 20 something kilo's. a double line pull & some shovel work would pretty much get anything stuck.
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Chop

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Joined: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 6456 Location: Radelaide ofcourse!
Vehicle: Suzuki GV 03/ 2010 DDIS NGV
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I went with a cheapie 9500lb ridge ryder, ideally i wouldve liked a tigerz11 with rope but this one popped up at $320.
I just need to make sure i atleast spool it out and run it atleast once a month, which i hope to do coz ive put a reminder msg in my phone every month.
I'm lucky i can go down to my stepdads and with the side gates open i can spool it out all the way and hook it up to his caravan at the very back of yard and retrieve it underload.
I'm realistic, and if it stuffs up i'm not overly fussed but with a bit of care it may last a while.
I just need to buy a good recovery kit now with snatch block and winch straps.
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Polar_Bear
Joined: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 2511 Location: Adelaide SA
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Chop wrote: I just need to buy a good recovery kit now with snatch block and winch straps.
thats gonna cost more than ya winch 
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Chop

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Joined: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 6456 Location: Radelaide ofcourse!
Vehicle: Suzuki GV 03/ 2010 DDIS NGV
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Yep  i can only imagine the whack to the hip pocket a brand name winch and recovery kit would do 
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Polar_Bear
Joined: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 2511 Location: Adelaide SA
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xxb want 155 bucks for their snatch block 
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Polar_Bear
Joined: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 2511 Location: Adelaide SA
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Chop

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Joined: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 6456 Location: Radelaide ofcourse!
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yeah i did see them when looking at gear on ebay. i'll probably buy the gear seperately. The good thing with that style is theyre more compact, some of the older style ones have huge outer plates on them.
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14499 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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when i bought my 6500 winch i also got a t-max winch kit as well
it has a easy to use snatch block, leather gloves, 10mtr and 20 mtr winch
extension straps, a couple of 3.7 shackles all in a flash bag that doubles as a
cable dampener. from memory it was $99
this is the snatch block i have.
http://www.kampers.com.au/sale.php?p=Pulley_Block
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Hotshot993
Joined: Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:46 pm Posts: 1270 Location: Brisbane
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I looked on that site shep, and I found the kit I'm pretty sure your talking about, its $299. But still not to bad, with snatch stap and all that. I reckon that sounds alright:)
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14499 Location: Here there everywhere
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yeah i saw the price. i am sure that i only payed $99 so it will pay to shop
around, however i was getting great prices from a parts shop in katherine at the time.
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Hotshot993
Joined: Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:46 pm Posts: 1270 Location: Brisbane
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Oh true maybe a bit of a sale and discount and mates rates all mixed into one:p lol. Still doesn't sound to bad though. Aren't snatch straps like $100 by themselves? Oh well I will have to wait another 1-2 weeks till I can even think about getting this type of gear. Can't wait.
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14499 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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 Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 6:19 am |
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haha $100 snatch straps must be made of gold. i have never payed more then $40 for either a snatch strap or winch extension.
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Hotshot993
Joined: Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:46 pm Posts: 1270 Location: Brisbane
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Oh true shit, unlucky for that friend of mine :p lol. Oh well. I guess when I'm buying gear that I need, I'll talk toyou first to see what you have paid:p lol
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