[Sutho]

hey does anyone know what the biggest and best comp tyre to fit onto a 6 inch rim????

maxxis....
simex....
silverstone....

i already have couragias but ill sell them soon

[Highway-Star]

6 inch rim won't fit over the brakes!

[joel]

6" wide will fit over the brakes.
simex side walls are very siff from what i hear.
sliverstones are a bit more forgiving and cheaper
maxxis are cheap and soft tread almost like stickys

[sideways]

Highway-Star wrote:

6 inch rim won't fit over the brakes!

I don't think a 6" rim would even have the space for the zook stud pattern!

[Highway-Star]

joel wrote:

6" wide will fit over the brakes

Oh wide...... someone should have said .
So rim diameter would be??????????? 22's?

[joel]

Highway-Star wrote:

joel wrote:

6" wide will fit over the brakes

Oh wide...... someone should have said .
So rim diameter would be??????????? 22's?

ima a smart cookie and worked it out!

[ZookiMonsta]

Sutho wrote:

hey does anyone know what the biggest and best comp tyre to fit onto a 6 inch rim????

maxxis....
simex....
silverstone....

i already have couragias but ill sell them soon

How soon?

[alien]

you left out what terrain you're driving and what speed you're doing.

also, why a 6" rim and not a 7" ??? 7" would open you up to more (larger) sizes.

otherwise, if you're fixed on a 6" rim look at 7.00x16 tyres (means getting a 16x6" rim).

but we still cant recommend a tyre if you don't say what you're driving on.

[suzi-fan-22]

these 7.00x16 what are these equlivent to?

[SierraDan]

30" i think?

[stocker]

you can get bigger tyres, its the width that it affects. so the most you'll squeeze on is a 9.5" Wide tyre. im pretty sure Procomp make a 32" x 9.5" R15

[joel]

alien wrote:

you left out what terrain you're driving and what speed you're doing.

also, why a 6" rim and not a 7" ??? 7" would open you up to more (larger) sizes.

otherwise, if you're fixed on a 6" rim look at 7.00x16 tyres (means getting a 16x6" rim).

but we still cant recommend a tyre if you don't say what you're driving on.

what would such a narrow tire be good for?
i think of the idea pretty often, but i imagine a tire of smaller width may not bag as well when at low pressure and may cut deep into soft mud and bog as the surface area is not spread out.....
but they look so cool.
what are the benefits?

[alien]

the way i think of tyres is like a tank:


you want a long footprint, not a wide one... so a tall tyre aired down gets very long but not too wide, giving you lots of the tread pattern on the ground. this also means the weight of the car is spread over a long skinny area giving more "bite". a wider tread tends not to spread as far length wise when airing down, and so doesnt give the same effect.

theres better explanations online with images and testing and junk, but i can't for the life of me find it now.

EDIT: found something close to what i base this on: http://www.expeditionswest.com/research ... _rev1.html

[Gwagensteve]

Less width = a better width/height ratio.
Superior drivability in all conditions than a wider tyre - longer, narrower footprints work better than wider, shorter ones.

A narrower tyre has massively better performance on slick but firm surfaces like clay.

As for comp tyres on 6" rims -

'pede in a 32X9.5 - 15 or 16"
swamper 32X9, 34X9 - 15 or 16"

7.00 (30"), 7.50 (31"), 8.25 (33"), 9.00X16 (35-36"), in any number of mine service type patterns, but all with high load ratings and stiff construction.

Steve.

[suzi-fan-22]

Gwagensteve wrote:

Less width = a better width/height ratio.
Superior drivability in all conditions than a wider tyre - longer, narrower footprints work better than wider, shorter ones.

A narrower tyre has massively better performance on slick but firm surfaces like clay.

As for comp tyres on 6" rims -

'pede in a 32X9.5 - 15 or 16"
swamper 32X9, 34X9 - 15 or 16"

7.00 (30"), 7.50 (31"), 8.25 (33"), 9.00X16 (35-36"), in any number of mine service type patterns, but all with high load ratings and stiff construction.

Steve.

did any seirra come out in these because i heard that late model tray backs did so i could run bigger rubber leaglely

[Red89]

235/85r16 is a 32' tyre.

[smiffkid]

can run a 31x9.5 jungle trekker,

depending on wat the terrain is to wat tire u need

[Highway-Star]

alien wrote:

the way i think of tyres is like a tank:


you want a long footprint, not a wide one... so a tall tyre aired down gets very long but not too wide, giving you lots of the tread pattern on the ground. this also means the weight of the car is spread over a long skinny area giving more "bite". a wider tread tends not to spread as far length wise when airing down, and so doesnt give the same effect.

I can appreciate what you are trying to say, but a tank is a terrible example. Within about 2 or 3 years of that tank photo you posted (the vehicle is an M3 General Lee derivative); the yanks were making tanks with much much wider tracks to lower ground pressure so the heaps of junk didn't get stuck as often (The Lee's/Grant's and Early VVSS Shermans were pretty poor performers from what I have read).

The Germans in WWII even went to the extent of supplying all Tiger 1's and 2's with 2 sets of tracks each. A skinny set so the oversize monstrosities could fit on a railway cart (with the outer row of road wheels removed also), and a massively wide set (200mm wider a side) to put on the tank for use, so it didn't get bogged every 35 seconds.
If you look on this page, there is a few pictures of Ausf H/E models with narrow tracks and combat tracks, and one with the narrow tracks but full set of road wheels.
http://www.achtungpanzer.com/panzerkamp ... fz-181.htm

Also I think the means by which a tracked vehicle steers means it doesn't benefit from the narrow wheels in the same way a tyred vehicle can in respect to better bite for steering.


For a bit of a laugh, the ultimate in wide tracks for lowering ground pressure in a tank. Porsche's Maus (mousy).....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzer_VIII_Maus



Anyway..... we still don't know what diameter wheels this bloke actually wants to use!!!

[alien]

lol a tank expert =) dam!

[Ben_Sierra]

Tank tracks are still relatively narrow though (much narrower than they are long).

You don't see tanks looking like this, thats for sure:

[Sutho]

ZookiMonsta wrote:

Sutho wrote:

hey does anyone know what the biggest and best comp tyre to fit onto a 6 inch rim????

maxxis....
simex....
silverstone....

i already have couragias but ill sell them soon

How soon?

im taking offers haha

[Sutho]

sorry guys,

i want a good offroad tyre to run comps with, i have 15 inch rims that are 6 inch wide and i want a good mud tyre to fit onto them...

anyone have any suggestions on what would be a good suited tyre for terrain like wet rock and mud

[alien]

wet rock and mud are two total opposites mate =)

i'd suggest KL71 or KM2 as i drive both those terrains and so far these 2 tyres are the best i've had on those surfaces. downside is neither come in a tall and skinny size that would suit those rims.

previously i've had cooper STTs and simex ETs..

[Highway-Star]

Sutho wrote:

sorry guys,

i want a good offroad tyre to run comps with, i have 15 inch rims that are 6 inch wide and i want a good mud tyre to fit onto them...

anyone have any suggestions on what would be a good suited tyre for terrain like wet rock and mud

Seeing as I've spoken so much shit in this thread I better say something remotely useful.....

235/75R15, or 30x9.5R15's would both be very happy on a 15x6. Not really big tyres, but about as big as you'll get away with on a mildish Sierra. You may get away with a 31x10.5, but only if its a skinnier one (like the Silverstone extremes I had, which were rather narrow for the 7's I had them on). You can get a few tyres in a 32x9.5-15. That would be about it I'd say.

Desired tread pattern and size don't always match up, so you may have to make a compromise on one of the 2.

Personally my pick to suit your requirements would be a BFG KM2 in a 30x9.5R15. It will be big enough for your car without excessive reworking (ie clearance off of just about everything), they grip well in most situations, and will be happy on 15x6's. Failing that maybe a Maxxis Trepadore in a 235/75R15.

[Sutho]

Highway-Star wrote:

Sutho wrote:

sorry guys,

i want a good offroad tyre to run comps with, i have 15 inch rims that are 6 inch wide and i want a good mud tyre to fit onto them...

anyone have any suggestions on what would be a good suited tyre for terrain like wet rock and mud

Seeing as I've spoken so much shit in this thread I better say something remotely useful.....

235/75R15, or 30x9.5R15's would both be very happy on a 15x6. Not really big tyres, but about as big as you'll get away with on a mildish Sierra. You may get away with a 31x10.5, but only if its a skinnier one (like the Silverstone extremes I had, which were rather narrow for the 7's I had them on). You can get a few tyres in a 32x9.5-15. That would be about it I'd say.

Desired tread pattern and size don't always match up, so you may have to make a compromise on one of the 2.

Personally my pick to suit your requirements would be a BFG KM2 in a 30x9.5R15. It will be big enough for your car without excessive reworking (ie clearance off of just about everything), they grip well in most situations, and will be happy on 15x6's. Failing that maybe a Maxxis Trepadore in a 235/75R15.

what about the 30 inch treps

[Highway-Star]

Sutho wrote:

what about the 30 inch treps

Or them too

I actually didn't think they made them in a 30, but I just checked, and their website says they do.

[Sutho]

Highway-Star wrote:

Sutho wrote:

what about the 30 inch treps

Or them too

I actually didn't think they made them in a 30, but I just checked, and their website says they do.

yer...what size tyre do u run?

[Highway-Star]

Sutho wrote:

yer...what size tyre do u run?

I run 31x10.5R15 Firestones on both my Sierra and LJ80. I wouldn't put those particular tyres on a 6" wide rim though. 7" seems ideal for them, 8" still seems to work. If you want bigger tyres, budget some new rims into it, and get a pair that work well together.

WRT the comments above about skinny tyres. I wouldn't stress about anything from around a 6" through to a 10.5" wide tyre (I've seen Sierra's on 6.00-16 bartreads and on 33x12.5's, and the tyre's width has never been the cars biggest issue). The car will still perform well if the car compliments the tyres accordingly. Something like a 31x13.5 would probably be rather dumb though

[Gwagensteve]

I wouldn't consider any radial except a Krawler as a "comp" (i.e 100% offroad) tyre, and I'm not even 100% convinced about Krawlers. Their road and rut performance is excellent, but they struggle where their width is a disadvantage. I've heard grooving them helps though.

Crossply tyres are so massively superior offroad it's not funny. Even more so on a light car like a sierra that struggles to flex its tread.

Radial mud tyres are what should be called "All Terrain" tyres in my opinion. They are NOT off road tyres.

Steve.

[Sutho]

Gwagensteve wrote:

I wouldn't consider any radial except a Krawler as a "comp" (i.e 100% offroad) tyre, and I'm not even 100% convinced about Krawlers. Their road and rut performance is excellent, but they struggle where their width is a disadvantage. I've heard grooving them helps though.

Crossply tyres are so massively superior offroad it's not funny. Even more so on a light car like a sierra that struggles to flex its tread.

Radial mud tyres are what should be called "All Terrain" tyres in my opinion. They are NOT off road tyres.

Steve.

like what brand tyre???