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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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 Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:21 pm |
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i found a hilux in a big pile of shitboxes and i want to use the towbar off it.
the problem is i need to either space out the chassis or cut down the towbar
my welding skills are very poor  and i don't have any supervision from
someone who is good at welding so i would rather not weld it. i was thinking
that i could bolt some thick walled RHS to the chassis and then bolt the
towbar to the RHS.
i would have to space it out 85mm on each side with some thick walled 75mm RHS
and some flat bar. the tow bar needs to handle around 60kg towball
weight and a 800kg trailer, it wont be driven on a road so the legalities dont matter.
will it work?
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S13RR4
Joined: Sat Aug 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1072 Location: Sunshine Coast
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shep, if your doing it, anything will work,
although like you said without balls supervision this could all go balls up
(excuse the pun)
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want33s

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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8134 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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 Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:58 pm |
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Can you get hold of an oxy set and bend the bars in to meet the chassis?
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steve

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 7681 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:58 pm |
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just weld it shep, you said it wont be driven on the road so doesn't matter? What could possibly go wrong?
also,
1. is that steel strapping for the exhaust mount?, did the plastic strapping break?
2. where do you buy curved bolts for shackles? Please post a photo of you complete shackle 
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v.w.dave
Joined: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1437 Location: The Hills Sydney
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Mate you can get used tow bars for your rig for $50 there is one from ACT on here right now. I can ship thing very cheaply Let me know if this will make life easier for you. infact I have on here I will ship you that all you need it a tounge and the mounting bolts. It has a very slight bend in it but is fine to use.
Pm me if you want it. Shipping should only be like $30
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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 Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:17 pm |
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v.w.dave wrote: Mate you can get used tow bars for your rig for $50 there is one from ACT on here right now. I can ship thing very cheaply Let me know if this will make life easier for you. infact I have on here I will ship you that all you need it a tounge and the mounting bolts. It has a very slight bend in it but is fine to use.
Pm me if you want it. Shipping should only be like $30
swb bars don't fit LWB sierras  if they did i would be laughing as i own a few of them.
jas i reckon that might be the go.
and steve. get fucked.  i smashed out the bit of the chassis that the shocks
bolt onto and it flapped around for a bit and took out the chassis mount for
the zorst which then poked a hole in my fuel tank  so it is now held on with a
hose clamp
and the shackle, well that's another story however it isnt the shackle or bolt that is bent 
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eldo

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Joined: Sat May 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2770 Location: sunny coast
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 Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:46 pm |
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just nip into the store and get some threaded rod and a few extra washers, shell be right mate!!!
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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 Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:03 pm |
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eldo wrote: just nip into the store and get some threaded rod and a few extra washers, shell be right mate!!!
i do have a shitload of threaded rod and that would be fairly quick.
i just went and had a quick look in my shed and there is 4 oxy and 4 acetylene bottles
so there must be a set of gauges and hoses somewhere so when i go to
work tomorrow that might be a good project for the day. gee i love being a
public servant.
and if i kill the tow bar there is heaps more toyotas at the dump. 
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Scrawny

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 Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:18 pm |
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Yeah, as Jas said give the bar bending a go first. Love the sticker too  Quite applicable for you 
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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 Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:19 pm |
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Get Mad Kenny to help, surely he has some baling twine and cable ties you could use...
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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lump_a_charcoal wrote: Get Mad Kenny to help, surely he has some baling twine and cable ties you could use...
i wish he was here cos he is a boily. the tow bar that he broke was one i
made.  that's why i want to be a little bit cautious this time.
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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 Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:24 pm |
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ScrawnC wrote: Yeah, as Jas said give the bar bending a go first. Love the sticker too  Quite applicable for you 
i chose that bar because of the sticker, had to winch it over the pile off cars
behind it which was a bit of fun anyway
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ZookiMonsta
Joined: Sun Aug 23, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1625 Location: Jimboomba
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shep wrote: the tow bar needs to handle around 60kg towball weight and a 800kg trailer, it wont be driven on a road so the legalities dont matter. will it work?
Towing a 800KG trailer with a zook...
Am i missing something here? *scratches head*
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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 Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:17 am |
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ZookiMonsta wrote: shep wrote: the tow bar needs to handle around 60kg towball weight and a 800kg trailer, it wont be driven on a road so the legalities dont matter. will it work? Towing a 800KG trailer with a zook... Am i missing something here? *scratches head*
actually it is probably more like 1000kg
i only have 1 car and i want to be able to stick my boat in the water.
here is another photo of my boat cos it is fucken great
don't worry mate there are no road rules where i live. 
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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ZookiMonsta wrote: shep wrote: the tow bar needs to handle around 60kg towball weight and a 800kg trailer, it wont be driven on a road so the legalities dont matter. will it work? Towing a 800KG trailer with a zook... Am i missing something here? *scratches head*
What sort of weight do you think snatching pull's on a zook??
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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 Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:21 am |
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it will be right, it will have a hilux towbar and they are as tuff as

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ZookiMonsta
Joined: Sun Aug 23, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1625 Location: Jimboomba
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 Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:25 am |
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haha. as long as its not THAT Hiluxs towbar.
Trade ya my hilux towbar for ya boat, so if your LWB
has two hilux tow bars it'd be tougher than a hilux.

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steak_knife

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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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 Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:32 am |
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i have another barge to unload tomorrow so i might see if i can fit more in. 
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want33s

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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8134 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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 Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:51 am |
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The poor ute would probably carry the load better if you put the heavy stuff against the headboard or at least over the axle instead of behind it.
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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 Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 2:58 am |
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it goes on the ute in the order that it comes off the boat. 
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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 Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 3:14 am |
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IMO I would be cutting it down and having it welded. Spacers will not relay the forces in the necessary manor.
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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 Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 3:21 am |
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there is no where to have it welded. i am gunna try and heat/bend the arm things.
should work maybe.
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Fatzook

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Desperate times hey? 
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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 Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 3:41 am |
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yep i wanna try my boat out and the work ute would probly drown if i used it
to beach launch the tinny.
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
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I has a solution(serious)
Cut the box section either side of the tongue bracing, Cut out the box section till you get the plates inline with the chassis. Bolt together with plates.
NoOb CaD aLL ThE wAy!
Hopefully you can understand it, and you have long enough bolts and enough plate. Preferably 10mm thick x 50mm wide at least.
Bodgee, but it will hold anything!
Also, Maybe a plate behind(so you dont see it) to brace up the pulling and pushing movements.
Add some toyota spray rust and viola!
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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 Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 11:32 pm |
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well i decided that BlueSuzy was onto something however there isn't a bolt
shop here and i am an impatient type of fella so i decided that i would just
weld it and worry about the consequences of failure later.
it is a bit low and not exactly square, and i didn't have any bolts for the passenger side. but i reckon it will do for now. i will find some bolts for the
passenger side but.
and on the plus side i reckon that i could fit a 6500lb winch in behind the
fuel tank. the towball is about 450mm off the ground so i hope i only get
around 150mm sag with the trailer on.
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Joe

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 Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 11:39 pm |
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Is it just me or does it look a bit lopsided in that first pic 
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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 Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 11:48 pm |
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joseph wrote: Is it just me or does it look a bit lopsided in that first pic 
it only has bolts on the drivers side
if ya look at the second photo you will see the G clamp that is holding the
other side sort off on.
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bogfrog

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shep wrote: joseph wrote: Is it just me or does it look a bit lopsided in that first pic  it only has bolts on the drivers side if ya look at the second photo you will see the G clamp that is holding the other side sort off on.
I think the G clamp is rated at atleast 2500kg so should be plenty strong? 
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