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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
Vehicle: MY2019 Jimny
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 Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 11:38 pm |
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What would cause a rear axle seal to prematurely fail in a Sierra?
Bent axle, worn axle, what else?
At the moment I am getting about 8-9 months out of a rear axle seal, which sux!
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want33s

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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8134 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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 Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 11:46 pm |
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Most times premature failure is due to the way the axle was put back into the diff tube causing damage to the seal.
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Scrawny

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Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
Vehicle: Popemobile
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 Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 11:49 pm |
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The way the seal was fitted, seal surface on the axle worn, bearing play?
I personally don't think aftermarket seals are any worse than genuine ones
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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 Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 11:51 pm |
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Surface maybe, bearings are about a year old - mechanic is pretty good.
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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 Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 11:53 pm |
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bent housing, leaking air locker.
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Scrawny

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Then just use Steves method of replacing everything till it's fixed 
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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 Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 11:55 pm |
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Yeah I am concerned it might be the housing - Airlocker isn't on enough for that to be it.
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zukmeista
Joined: Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1273 Location: Whangarei,N.Z.
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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 Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:09 am |
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Zookin_85
Joined: Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 98 Location: wollongong NSW
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Has the axle been out with in the last say 3 weeks?
If it has then i would say the seal has been pinched, I have to replace mine as i nicked the seal when refitting my axe the other week and it is now weeping.
I would look at replacing the hub seal.
If it always happens what side does it happen on??
or is it both?
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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 Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:16 am |
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It hasn't been out since the last time it was replaced, about 9 months ago.
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Zookin_85
Joined: Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 98 Location: wollongong NSW
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Is it one side all the time our both?
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weaves

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Joined: Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1564 Location: Newcastle
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 Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 2:20 am |
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Diff breather isn't blocked? causing the diff to pressurise?
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joeblow
Joined: Sat May 10, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 3273 Location: melbourne
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you get a year out of standard bearings?....thats pretty good.
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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 Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 2:35 am |
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Zookin_85 wrote: Is it one side all the time our both?
Passenger side more often I think
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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weaves wrote: Diff breather isn't blocked? causing the diff to pressurise?
breather is good, both sides would leak if it was blocked I reckon.
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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joeblow wrote: you get a year out of standard bearings?....thats pretty good.
You serious?
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
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lump_a_charcoal wrote: joeblow wrote: you get a year out of standard bearings?....thats pretty good. You serious?
x2!
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adrian_gadaleta
Joined: Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 104 Location: Top End
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damaged/non existent splashguard inside the housing will cause more oil to reach the seal, increasing heat and wear and would be more likely to fail.
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whincup

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Joined: Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 1588 Location: Gracemere, QLD
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adrian_gadaleta wrote: damaged/non existent splashguard inside the housing will cause more oil to reach the seal, increasing heat and wear and would be more likely to fail.
sorry to hijack thread, but ive had the same problemi have the diff centre out too at the moment, is it possible for someone to explain what these splash guards look like & where they're meant to be?? please 
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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 Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:20 am |
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OK turns out it had some grit in it, which chewed the seal out a bit.
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
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 Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:08 pm |
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adrian_gadaleta wrote: damaged/non existent splashguard inside the housing will cause more oil to reach the seal, increasing heat and wear and would be more likely to fail.
I have not ran a splash guard in my rhs since i did the seal. yonks ago.
I put the seal in, then, oh whats this doova? oh well. She'll be right, and she has! Don't ask me where it is now though..
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Dale
Joined: Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:42 am Posts: 80 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: Sierra
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 Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:00 pm |
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Mate and I get about 6months (max) for the rear wheel bearings, the seals get replaced then.
Seals can often go bad once excess play develops in the bearings.
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Hybrid

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Joined: Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1095 Location: Bulimba, Brisbane
Vehicle: '92 Sierra
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 Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 2:20 am |
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Why would it leak both sides if the breather was blocked? I would expect it to build up pressure until one side went then it would just vent via that one failed seal.
Water and mud was always the culprit back in my young/dumb/no breather extension days.
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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 Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:13 am |
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Hybrid wrote: Why would it leak both sides if the breather was blocked? I would expect it to build up pressure until one side went then it would just vent via that one failed seal.
Water and mud was always the culprit back in my young/dumb/no breather extension days.
Yes, good point. 
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