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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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Because the week wouldn't be complete without multiple tyre threads... lol
I'm considering running 2 sets of rubber - summer and winter, and as such want some feedback on rock tyres...
Terrain here in summer is dried clay with pebbles in it and on it (like shale almost - very slippy), compacted dried clay, loose rocks and granite.
Whats ya thoughts on a suitable 31x10.5 tyre?
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jonno_racing

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i have heard great things about treps... pitty they dont do the comp spec style in 31's
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weaves

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Joined: Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1564 Location: Newcastle
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personally, i would go for a very flat faced tread pattern with nice deep grooves, something like the trepadors, baja claw, old wrangler MTR and the like.
i would steer clear of the simex's, and bogger style tread patterns.
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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yeah i'm sticking with simex ET for winter tyres =)
i would have thought the trep pattern would be prone to bad lateral traction being kind of a bar tread? (same issue the simex suffer).
I've got no idea with whats good on rocks though... who'd compared a MTR to a Trep in real life? theyre pretty chalk and cheese looks wise.
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89_tintop

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Joined: Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3159 Location: gold coast
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i have used both treps and MTRs..(i was running the old style MTR) . be it they were on different cars and were different sizes.. treps were 31s and the MTRs were 35s
both were really good on rocks. . my personal choice would be the treps as the sidewall isnt as thick and bags down quite well. although i have heard great things about the new kevlar MTRs
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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89_tintop

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Joined: Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3159 Location: gold coast
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Gwagensteve wrote: http://www.4wheelparts.com/Tires/31X10-50R15LT-General-Grabber.aspx?t_c=13&t_s=486&t_pt=101129&t_pl=102364&t_pn=GEN04568150000
I'm almost mad for these as a summer tyre- even 35 12.5s are only US$211 each.
Steve.
Some good looking tyres on that sight.....
Query quite like the super swamper range.........
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SuziBlu
Joined: Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4268 Location: Eyre Peninsula
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They look like they would be great for city 4wdin, bugger all else but.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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The General Grabber tyre is getting used on KOH trucks in the states & a few of the Outback Challenge/Cliffhanger trucks are getting around on them.
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SuziBlu
Joined: Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4268 Location: Eyre Peninsula
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No kidding. I do not like the look of the tread, it does not look like it would disperse water at all, more like it would love to aquaplane, no escape.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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I think you'd be surprised SuziBlu. I didn't rate 35X13.5" Krawlers on a Sierra either but they're stunning.
They're brand new though so I don't know what the compound is like, bu tI reckon they'd a good summer tyre.
Load range C though so they should bag.
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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yeah we giggled a bit when we saw em at cliffhanger but they worked
Unless you are paddling mud when you are going slow I reckon tread pattern counts for bugger all in performance and its all in the rubber compound, you should see how my rock climbing shoes stick to rock and they are slicks 
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Bucket

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Joined: Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 2191 Location: Vic
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Pro comp tyres? Seen a few down here at work and they look alright, and everyone who's truck we've worked on who was running them rated them highly.
Personally have no clue though.
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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the generals look pretty awesome... the AU site doesnt list them though which means expensive USA shipping =/
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almost looks like a rally style tread pattern.
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
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Pro comp is big dollars.
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11_evl
Joined: Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 846 Location: logan reserve, Brisb
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KM2??
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PJ.zook

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Joined: Sat Oct 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 845 Location: Melbourne
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Yeh as you mentioned, steer clear of Simex Extremes on shale, they are the worst tyre i have ever used on shale and smooth rock.
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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sent an email to general tires australia asking if theyre bringing in the 'new grabber' and what the rrp is...
anyone else got suggestions? So many of you guys drive rocks i'd thought i'd be overwhelmed =) haha
KM2 is too nobbly on rocks i reckon (seen them in action) - but still better than the simexs... lol
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TZAR

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Joined: Tue Aug 01, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 3461 Location: licking some windows
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Underground mining vehicles that work in harshest conditions use a slick tyre as this grips the best to rock and doesn't chip itself away.
Get a tyre that has a high anti chip compound and it will be great on rocks but on bitumen it will wear away quickly. That is the nature of the beast. You cannot have both
Thats why coopers used to peel huge chunks of them and fall to pieces.
I would go a AT like a BFG for more off road work or bridgestone d694 for a more comfortable tyre on the road but still excellent offraod
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sierrajim
Joined: Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 345 Location: Hugging Royce behind the shelter shed
Vehicle: Suzuki Sierra
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Summer Tyre
1st place MTZ, Good on road, passable in mud, pretty good on rocks, good in dirt,
2nd place Pro Comp X terrain, Ok on the road, passable in light mud, OK on rocks, Ok on Dirt.
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DarkHorse

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Sounds like the Treps would be good for you, and cheaper.
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imatt
Joined: Tue May 25, 2010 9:04 am Posts: 72 Location: Ballan
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My mate found federal couragia MT's pretty good on rocks, they wre 33's and on a 80 series but they always had grip and hardly slipped at all.
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Bucket

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Joined: Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 2191 Location: Vic
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BlueSuzy wrote: Pro comp is big dollars.
True, but $$$'s weren't mentioned anywhere.
The pro comp range looks the goods though. One of my bosses runs the xtreme AT on his daily, the other boss (who is his brother) runs the regular AT and they both look like a great tyre and they've both had a lot to say about them.
A few customers cars we've done ran the pro comp mud terrian which resembled a maxxis buckshot with a bit of side tread, but less then a maxxis bighorn.
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Joe

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Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 49041 Location: Rockingham W.A
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I had procomp Xterrains on my sierra and i reckon they are a good all round tyre
I thought they were alright on price too, i paid $330 each for 33x12.5
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atari4x4

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Chop

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Joined: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 6456 Location: Radelaide ofcourse!
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They scream Kevlar MTR to me
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Joe

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Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 49041 Location: Rockingham W.A
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 funny looking mud terrain though 
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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looks like a remould over a muddy carcass... cool pattern though!
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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i doubt that they're remolds... 
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Chop

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I like the look of these Nitto's
Chop
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