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Post Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 9:55 am 
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Because the week wouldn't be complete without multiple tyre threads... lol

I'm considering running 2 sets of rubber - summer and winter, and as such want some feedback on rock tyres...

Terrain here in summer is dried clay with pebbles in it and on it (like shale almost - very slippy), compacted dried clay, loose rocks and granite.

Whats ya thoughts on a suitable 31x10.5 tyre?

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Post Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 9:59 am 
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i have heard great things about treps... pitty they dont do the comp spec style in 31's

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Post Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:01 am 
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personally, i would go for a very flat faced tread pattern with nice deep grooves, something like the trepadors, baja claw, old wrangler MTR and the like.

i would steer clear of the simex's, and bogger style tread patterns.

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Post Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:04 am 
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yeah i'm sticking with simex ET for winter tyres =)

i would have thought the trep pattern would be prone to bad lateral traction being kind of a bar tread? (same issue the simex suffer).

I've got no idea with whats good on rocks though... who'd compared a MTR to a Trep in real life? theyre pretty chalk and cheese looks wise.

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Post Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:10 am 
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i have used both treps and MTRs..(i was running the old style MTR) . be it they were on different cars and were different sizes.. treps were 31s and the MTRs were 35s

both were really good on rocks. . my personal choice would be the treps as the sidewall isnt as thick and bags down quite well. although i have heard great things about the new kevlar MTRs

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Post Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:45 am 
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http://www.4wheelparts.com/Tires/31X10- ... 4568150000

I'm almost mad for these as a summer tyre- even 35 12.5s are only US$211 each.

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Post Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:57 am 
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Gwagensteve wrote:
http://www.4wheelparts.com/Tires/31X10-50R15LT-General-Grabber.aspx?t_c=13&t_s=486&t_pt=101129&t_pl=102364&t_pn=GEN04568150000

I'm almost mad for these as a summer tyre- even 35 12.5s are only US$211 each.

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Some good looking tyres on that sight.....


Query quite like the super swamper range.........

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Post Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:04 am 
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They look like they would be great for city 4wdin, bugger all else but.

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Post Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:07 am 
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The General Grabber tyre is getting used on KOH trucks in the states & a few of the Outback Challenge/Cliffhanger trucks are getting around on them.

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Post Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:12 am 
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No kidding. I do not like the look of the tread, it does not look like it would disperse water at all, more like it would love to aquaplane, no escape.

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Post Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:14 am 
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I think you'd be surprised SuziBlu. I didn't rate 35X13.5" Krawlers on a Sierra either but they're stunning.

They're brand new though so I don't know what the compound is like, bu tI reckon they'd a good summer tyre.

Load range C though so they should bag.

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Post Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:20 am 
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yeah we giggled a bit when we saw em at cliffhanger but they worked

Unless you are paddling mud when you are going slow I reckon tread pattern counts for bugger all in performance and its all in the rubber compound, you should see how my rock climbing shoes stick to rock and they are slicks :wink:

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Post Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:35 am 
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Pro comp tyres? Seen a few down here at work and they look alright, and everyone who's truck we've worked on who was running them rated them highly.

Personally have no clue though.

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Post Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:18 pm 
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the generals look pretty awesome... the AU site doesnt list them though which means expensive USA shipping =/

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almost looks like a rally style tread pattern.

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Pro comp is big dollars.

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Post Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 9:02 pm 
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KM2??

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Post Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 9:04 pm 
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Yeh as you mentioned, steer clear of Simex Extremes on shale, they are the worst tyre i have ever used on shale and smooth rock.

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Post Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:53 pm 
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sent an email to general tires australia asking if theyre bringing in the 'new grabber' and what the rrp is...

anyone else got suggestions? So many of you guys drive rocks i'd thought i'd be overwhelmed =) haha

KM2 is too nobbly on rocks i reckon (seen them in action) - but still better than the simexs... lol

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Post Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:32 pm 
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Underground mining vehicles that work in harshest conditions use a slick tyre as this grips the best to rock and doesn't chip itself away.

Get a tyre that has a high anti chip compound and it will be great on rocks but on bitumen it will wear away quickly. That is the nature of the beast. You cannot have both

Thats why coopers used to peel huge chunks of them and fall to pieces.

I would go a AT like a BFG for more off road work or bridgestone d694 for a more comfortable tyre on the road but still excellent offraod

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Post Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:52 pm 
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Post Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 1:51 am 
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Sounds like the Treps would be good for you, and cheaper.

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Post Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:22 am 
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My mate found federal couragia MT's pretty good on rocks, they wre 33's and on a 80 series but they always had grip and hardly slipped at all.
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Post Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:43 am 
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BlueSuzy wrote:
Pro comp is big dollars.


True, but $$$'s weren't mentioned anywhere.

The pro comp range looks the goods though. One of my bosses runs the xtreme AT on his daily, the other boss (who is his brother) runs the regular AT and they both look like a great tyre and they've both had a lot to say about them.
A few customers cars we've done ran the pro comp mud terrian which resembled a maxxis buckshot with a bit of side tread, but less then a maxxis bighorn.

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Post Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:59 am 
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I had procomp Xterrains on my sierra and i reckon they are a good all round tyre
I thought they were alright on price too, i paid $330 each for 33x12.5

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Post Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:01 am 
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what about something like these 8O

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Post Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:13 am 
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They scream Kevlar MTR to me :wink:

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Post Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:15 am 
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:P funny looking mud terrain though :roll:

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Post Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:19 am 
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looks like a remould over a muddy carcass... cool pattern though!

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Post Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:21 am 
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i doubt that they're remolds... :roll:

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I like the look of these Nitto's :wink:

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