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Microwire
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:40 am Posts: 543 Location: Casula
Vehicle: Vitara 90'
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Hi Guys,
I went for a drive around town the other day in the wet and everytime I took off at the lights I had to be super carefull about the clutch as I would spin the wheels with no effort at all. I know these tires aren't the best on road and I can drift damp round abouts without anything more than a slight bit of pressure on the right foot.
I'm very much the Sunday driver everyday, how does everyone else combat this? or do you just not worry about it?
BTW I'm running 30' BFG muddies.
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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sirbob
Joined: Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:48 am Posts: 94 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:28 am |
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Just a function of old, hard tires I'm afraid...
I have the same issues with my Yoky's currently... Although they still need to be provoked to break out, they are slowly on the way out!
You could try dropping tyre pressures and see if that helps? Try 25PSI and see what happens...
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Microwire
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:40 am Posts: 543 Location: Casula
Vehicle: Vitara 90'
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 Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:28 am |
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25psi except the right rear it goes anywhere from 25psi to 0psi  but it takesa few days, I never managed to stop the bead from leaking.
edit: the day in question I was on 25psi
Edit: x2 yeah these are quite old.
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
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Look at your tyre place card. Run those pressures.
If the tyres are old, they go hard, and will slip easy. There should be a date mth/yr melted into the sidewall of the tyre.
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MacDaddy

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Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 10453 Location: Perth, Australia
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 Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:28 am |
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Well theres your problem right there, BFG's are one of the worst for slipping and sliding on wet roads, lol... if you have no extra weight in your zook, i would drop the pressure another couple of psi, see if that helps, but yeah, if they are old and hard, not much you can do about it...
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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 Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:45 am |
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The goodyear ATR's on my ute are guilty for this. Although they are getting low in tread and long in the tooth.
Time for new tyres.
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31zook
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9242 Location: maito
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my wranglers were bad, my ol'man 80series on BF muddies is bad. but to top them all, my boggers understeered in the dry on round abouts 
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whincup

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Joined: Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 1588 Location: Gracemere, QLD
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wet tarmac is the only place i can fault my BFG ATs. even with brand new ones up the front theres not a whole lot of improvement. unfortunately all tyres have their good and bad points, these just happen to be shit in the rain. personally i think they grip better on gravel than they do wet roads...
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Chop

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Joined: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 6456 Location: Radelaide ofcourse!
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Looking at the tyres in your build thread, no bloody wonder
Time for some new shoes 
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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Chop wrote: Looking at the tyres in your build thread, no bloody wonder Time for some new shoes 
+1 the spare looks like it's cast in black HDPE 
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Microwire
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:40 am Posts: 543 Location: Casula
Vehicle: Vitara 90'
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Heh yeah they aren't the best, I got them mainly for the rims and intended to put 31's on them but I prefer 30's so I'm looking at getting some new rubber. The spare is a last resort, as in only use if the alternative is dying
I'm looking at getting some bighorns but I'm thinking that most of my driving is on rocks and sand should I just get some mall terrains?
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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rocks and sand require 2 different tread patterns... sand will benefit more from an AT pattern, while rock is better with more of an MT pattern.
i've not had my KM2's on proper sand yet, but road and rock (wet and dry) the KM2's are shining right now - by far the best tyre i've had on those surfaces - i cant comment on mud cos it doesnt rain here anymore.
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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alien wrote: rocks and sand require 2 different tread patterns... sand will benefit more from an AT pattern, while rock is better with more of an MT pattern.
i've not had my KM2's on proper sand yet, but road and rock (wet and dry) the KM2's are shining right now - by far the best tyre i've had on those surfaces - i cant comment on mud cos it doesnt rain here anymore.
I've watch them pull traction out of nothing in mud..
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Microwire
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:40 am Posts: 543 Location: Casula
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Nice thanks for the info Alien, Maybe I'll look towards bighorns cos I'm on rocks most of the time, I can't really aford the extra $100 each for BFGs.
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
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MacBear wrote: Well theres your problem right there, BFG's are one of the worst for slipping and sliding on wet roads, lol... if you have no extra weight in your zook, i would drop the pressure another couple of psi, see if that helps, but yeah, if they are old and hard, not much you can do about it...
Yea did you get this awesome piece of info? You'll find once worn out they will slip all over the place especially the at's. In good condition both the km1 and km2 are bloody unreal on the wet road for a muddy!
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
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JrZook wrote: . In good condition both the km1 and km2 are bloody unreal on the wet road for a muddy!
Good to know
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flatcat_auz

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Joined: Tue Oct 05, 2010 6:06 am Posts: 154 Location: Nth of Syd.
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Stay well clear of GT radials. Currently running these and they are dead set dangerous in the wet. The soon they wear the quicker they get replaced.
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
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 Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 10:55 pm |
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But allan moffat stands by them..
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Ben_Sierra

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Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4472 Location: Perth
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JrZook wrote: MacBear wrote: Well theres your problem right there, BFG's are one of the worst for slipping and sliding on wet roads, lol... if you have no extra weight in your zook, i would drop the pressure another couple of psi, see if that helps, but yeah, if they are old and hard, not much you can do about it... Yea did you get this awesome piece of info? You'll find once worn out they will slip all over the place especially the at's. In good condition both the km1 and km2 are bloody unreal on the wet road for a muddy!
I also find my Bighorn's are surprisingly good on wet bitumen...
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31zook
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9242 Location: maito
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Ben_Sierra wrote: I also find my Bighorn's are surprisingly good on wet bitumen...
x2
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Microwire
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:40 am Posts: 543 Location: Casula
Vehicle: Vitara 90'
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Good to hear, what do you think would be reasonable to pay for 30' bighorns?
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
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Tried ringing a few places? Your in tyre central.. There are also 2 types now, but the newer version prob won't be avaliable
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Microwire
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:40 am Posts: 543 Location: Casula
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nope  I'll be doing that this weekend. Do you know of any decent places to start?
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
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_________________ BlueSuzy wrote: I'm over the G16b's.
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31zook
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9242 Location: maito
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i like bob jane at newy... my 29s were $180ea....
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TryHard
Joined: Thu May 13, 2010 1:49 am Posts: 1041 Location: Perth
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 Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 2:50 am |
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31zook wrote: Ben_Sierra wrote: I also find my Bighorn's are surprisingly good on wet bitumen...
x2
x3 i run them 
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TryHard
Joined: Thu May 13, 2010 1:49 am Posts: 1041 Location: Perth
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hey guys seeing the where on tyre subject how much do u think i would pay for a set of 33 " Bighorns ?
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Ben_Sierra

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Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4472 Location: Perth
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TryHard wrote: hey guys seeing the where on tyre subject how much do u think i would pay for a set of 33 " Bighorns ?
Less than Km2s, thats for sure...
Dunno how much on 33s though...
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TryHard
Joined: Thu May 13, 2010 1:49 am Posts: 1041 Location: Perth
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Ben_Sierra wrote: TryHard wrote: hey guys seeing the where on tyre subject how much do u think i would pay for a set of 33 " Bighorns ? Less than Km2s, thats for sure... Dunno how much on 33s though...
dam thinking of getting some new rims to fit them on as well ..
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