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Bruce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4003 Location: Brisbane
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boostedbrick

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Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:44 am Posts: 2003 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 2018 DMAX
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 Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:00 am |
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My master in my volvo shit its self alot of times, and did what you described.. that was mainly due to the heavy clutch and sleeved down slave killing it. The longer i drove the harder it was to smoothly release the pedal till the point it sometimes stuck.
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Bruce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4003 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:01 am |
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Well I do have a heavy duty clutch fitted. hummmmmmmm interesting
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Scrawny

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Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
Vehicle: Popemobile
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 Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:25 am |
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Master cylinder Bruce 
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Bruce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4003 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:33 am |
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What's ya thinking Scrawn? Just trying to understand it?
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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Bruce wrote: What's ya thinking Scrawn? Just trying to understand it? ScrawnC wrote: Master cylinder Bruce 
 replace it Bruce...
& flush the fluid to..
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Scrawny

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Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
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 Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:38 am |
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Slave cylinders generally only leak. Masters cylinders can bypass (pedal sticking down), they can leak inside the car and they can get sticky. I'm frequently replacing them on the Hiaces at work.
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Bruce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4003 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:41 am |
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Hummmmmmmm. Fluid changed and it was pressure changed and I thought it was good but it's still doing it.
Ok Looks like I should get another Master cyclinder then. knowing Holden it will cost shit loads and they will want a vin number. 
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Scrawny

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 Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:44 am |
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Possibly only a kidney and yes on the Vin.
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Bruce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4003 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:45 am |
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LOL
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Scrawny

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 Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:49 am |
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Have you got someone to help you do a manual bleed? I find the vacuum bleeders (if that's what you used?) can sometimes introduce more air than they get out. If you like, I can drop in tomorrow?
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Bruce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4003 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:55 am |
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I got it done by a guy I have been using for 20+ years as he was replacing the brakes and hand brake cable for me a while ago and he noticed that the fluid was dirty so he flushed it for me. Maybe there is still air in there. It was pressure changed?
There is no leak that I know of Scrawn.
If you want to have a look I can drive it to work tomorrow and you can have a look for me?
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Scrawny

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 Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:20 am |
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:38 am |
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stick your head under teh dash first and look for leaks
the throwout could be sticking on teh snout, but that wouldnt be fixed by lifting the pedal up
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Bruce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4003 Location: Brisbane
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There is no leaks Royce. Looks like we have a Master Cyl to change 
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royce

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 Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:47 am |
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when the pedal stuck down, was it like the your foot was on the clutch so not driving?
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Bruce

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 Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:00 am |
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When it did it (and only has done it once) was going from 1st to 2nd and it was like the clutch was in and not driving. So I then pulled the pedal out with toe and it was driving.
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royce

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 Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:13 am |
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your pedal box has something wrong with it 
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Scrawny

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 Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:16 pm |
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Bruce wrote: When it did it (and only has done it once) was going from 1st to 2nd and it was like the clutch was in and not driving. So I then pulled the pedal out with toe and it was driving.
Hmmmmm.... Now that changes a few things......
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Bruce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4003 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:43 pm |
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Pedal box? Now I am lost.
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Scrawny

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 Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:01 pm |
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How heavy is the pedal with the heavy duty clutch? It may have bent the pedal pivot or pushrod. Are there plastic bushes in the pivot? It's always hard diagnosing over the net, it always ends up just being a whole lot of guesses
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:48 pm |
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Yeah but its a Fake Holden so its ok
by pedal box I mean the pivot the pedal itself turns on, might have slightly worn bushes so after a bit it starts to get stuck
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Bruce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4003 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:13 pm |
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I'll have to have a look but I can't see why it starts to get hard after a bit. If it is pivot bush one would think it would be hard from the start. It's not like I am using the pedal up the freeway all the time. I get into 5th and might drive 1 hour up freeway then go to put into 4th and the pedal is harder to press in.
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:19 pm |
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the heat might be making the pressure plate go stiff and then it jams up the pedal, the vit would do amazingly stupid stuff like that with that clutch in it
you are the one that added the lifted it with my toe bit, thats the part that makes it all not make sense cause the pedal cant pull anything back, the mastercyl pushrod isnt connected inside the mastercyl so its not sucking the slave cyl back (and they cant do that anyway)
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Bruce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4003 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:31 pm |
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Ok so I will look at the pivot bush. Maybe pull it out and lube it up?
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:39 pm |
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yeah spray some slippery shit in there
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Bruce

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Yep I'll try that first. Has to be WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY cheaper that clutch master at this stage.
Thank's Scrawn and Royce. I'll let you know.
Now I just have to turn my fat old body upside down under dash and see how hard it is to remove. 
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:49 pm |
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I might have to come watch this
once you get the lower dash panel off it should be easy enough to get at
it might be worth going for a long drive and seeing it the pedal and master get hot at all
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Damo

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Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4661 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:51 pm |
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Bruce wrote: Now I just have to turn my fat old body upside down under dash and see how hard it is to remove. 
Pics!!!
No, wait! 
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Bruce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4003 Location: Brisbane
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No Damo NO pics. Bwhahahaahah
Well I am off to Toowoomba tomorrow so that will tell. I'll try to get it done today when I get home.
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