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primejo07
Joined: Thu May 19, 2011 3:58 am Posts: 344 Location: Kununurra
Vehicle: 93 Sierra 2'' lift 30'' tires
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Hey guys I wanna put a second fuel filter in my engine bay, I always have carby troubles and just got everything sorted so I wanna try and keep it that way  I was just wondering if anyone has pics of how they mounted/set up theirs? I wanna try and do a neat job. Thanks guys 
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Reubs
Joined: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1522 Location: Brisbane
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:09 am |
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No pics, but in my daily-drive Sierra I have a Speco brand glass with wire mesh inline filter mounted half way along the carby fuel hose. It is cabletied to the PCV breather hose.
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Joe
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 10:27 am |
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What ended up being the problem with your carbie Josh?
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primejo07
Joined: Thu May 19, 2011 3:58 am Posts: 344 Location: Kununurra
Vehicle: 93 Sierra 2'' lift 30'' tires
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 1:18 pm |
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Joe wrote: What ended up being the problem with your carbie Josh? It just had shit in it... And a lot of components didn't work, so I got a reconditioned one and that 100 percent fixed the problem! Very happy customer 
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Joe
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 1:26 pm |
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primejo07 wrote: Joe wrote: What ended up being the problem with your carbie Josh? It just had shit in it... And a lot of components didn't work, so I got a reconditioned one and that 100 percent fixed the problem! Very happy customer But didn't they put on a recon carbie on and it still played up a few days later? Shit in your fuel lines? I was checkin your out the other day it looks good with the new tyres & rims
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primejo07
Joined: Thu May 19, 2011 3:58 am Posts: 344 Location: Kununurra
Vehicle: 93 Sierra 2'' lift 30'' tires
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 1:43 pm |
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Joe wrote: primejo07 wrote: Joe wrote: What ended up being the problem with your carbie Josh? It just had shit in it... And a lot of components didn't work, so I got a reconditioned one and that 100 percent fixed the problem! Very happy customer But didn't they put on a recon carbie on and it still played up a few days later? Shit in your fuel lines? I was checkin your out the other day it looks good with the new tyres & rims ohhh yeah, shit got in the carby again.. did the old swap the leads trick and that worked. havent had a problem since and that was 2 weeks ago so im just doing everything i can to prevent things happening again. yeah cheers mate shes come up good needs ruf and gearing and she'll be all set!
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primejo07
Joined: Thu May 19, 2011 3:58 am Posts: 344 Location: Kununurra
Vehicle: 93 Sierra 2'' lift 30'' tires
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:21 pm |
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Reubs wrote: No pics, but in my daily-drive Sierra I have a Speco brand glass with wire mesh inline filter mounted half way along the carby fuel hose. It is cabletied to the PCV breather hose. thanks mate ill have a look and see if i can figure out where it should go
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foolsp33d
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 5:59 pm |
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primejo07 wrote: Hey guys I wanna put a second fuel filter in my engine bay, I always have carby troubles and just got everything sorted so I wanna try and keep it that way I was just wondering if anyone has pics of how they mounted/set up theirs? I wanna try and do a neat job. Thanks guys  
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primejo07
Joined: Thu May 19, 2011 3:58 am Posts: 344 Location: Kununurra
Vehicle: 93 Sierra 2'' lift 30'' tires
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:04 pm |
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foolsp33d wrote: primejo07 wrote: Hey guys I wanna put a second fuel filter in my engine bay, I always have carby troubles and just got everything sorted so I wanna try and keep it that way I was just wondering if anyone has pics of how they mounted/set up theirs? I wanna try and do a neat job. Thanks guys Awesome mate thanks heaps that's exactly what I was looking for can I ask what sort of filter is that and where did you get it from? I wanna get one tonight thanks!
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atari4x4
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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:10 pm |
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it's just a low pressure plastic fuel filter with straight barbs on it, any auto shop will be able to help
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primejo07
Joined: Thu May 19, 2011 3:58 am Posts: 344 Location: Kununurra
Vehicle: 93 Sierra 2'' lift 30'' tires
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:23 pm |
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Awesome - thanks. This may be a stupid question but will it affect the fuel getting into the carby? When starting and stuff
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atari4x4
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:27 pm |
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nope, it will be fine. 
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primejo07
Joined: Thu May 19, 2011 3:58 am Posts: 344 Location: Kununurra
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:49 pm |
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atari4x4 wrote: nope, it will be fine. Cheers matee
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FullyZooked
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:59 pm |
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Those exact filters you can get at SuperCrap for $3. Their good because you can tell what shits in them and if there's any water in your juice
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sando
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:07 pm |
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I would run one of these before your factory filter as the filtration won't be fine enough. Put it somewhere that you can get at and out of the way. Alot of diesels run a CAV filter with a water seperator which work well, not sure if they are only for diesels?
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primejo07
Joined: Thu May 19, 2011 3:58 am Posts: 344 Location: Kununurra
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:18 pm |
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I think the point of having it in the engine bay is to stop crap from the fuel pump membrane getting through or something?
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Drova
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 8:12 pm |
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primejo07 wrote: I think the point of having it in the engine bay is to stop crap from the fuel pump membrane getting through or something? Bingo
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christover1
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:29 pm |
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I also replaced the stock filter with an inline efi filter,
got it for $30 brand new, think was from a commodore?
They filter better, and last a very long time
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Reubs
Joined: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1522 Location: Brisbane
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:33 pm |
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Personally I wouldn't keep a large volume filter above the engine - I'd be worried about boiling the fuel but then again i'm not a mechanic. I have this one and it's a fraction of the volume and re-usable as well.  If you are worried about price, repco sell these Ryco Z676 'tiny' ones for less than $10 and they don't occupy much more space than the hose itself and you could put one on the carby end of the hose and not have to tie it down... http://www.rycofilters.com.au/library/news/1235626035_document_77-09_e-notice_feb_web.pdfI'd use the Ryco ones next-time and just replace it every so often.
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primejo07
Joined: Thu May 19, 2011 3:58 am Posts: 344 Location: Kununurra
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 11:02 pm |
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That's awesome thanks mate! Went to super cheap they were out of stock so it must be a sign that I should get that one haha cheers!
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TheOtherLeft
Joined: Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 818 Location: Sydney
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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 7:51 pm |
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sando wrote: I would run one of these before your factory filter as the filtration won't be fine enough. Put it somewhere that you can get at and out of the way. Alot of diesels run a CAV filter with a water seperator which work well, not sure if they are only for diesels? Would these filters, with a water seperator, be any benefit in a petrol engine? I know they are very common mods for diesels but haven't heard of them being used in petrols?
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sando
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Joined: Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:52 am Posts: 198 Location: Ipswich
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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 7:43 pm |
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TheOtherLeft wrote: sando wrote: I would run one of these before your factory filter as the filtration won't be fine enough. Put it somewhere that you can get at and out of the way. Alot of diesels run a CAV filter with a water seperator which work well, not sure if they are only for diesels? Would these filters, with a water seperator, be any benefit in a petrol engine? I know they are very common mods for diesels but haven't heard of them being used in petrols? I have been doing abit of research around this filtration for petrols and have found that a Lucas/Delphi HDF296 CAV filter will work on petrol. They have a filtration rating of 6microns and a flow rate of 45L/hr. You can buy a pack of 10 from ebay for about $25  There are a few people running them on carbi, efi seems abit more complicated. I will have abit more of a read before I suggest anyone with an efi to run them....
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want33s
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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:42 am |
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No point having a water seperator filter in a petrol vehicle... Just add a litre of metho to the tank every few months..
Metho is hygroscopic so it absorbs the water. Metho mixes with petrol and gets burnt.
Metho doesn't mix with diesel so you can't use it and need a proper water seperator filter.
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TheOtherLeft
Joined: Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 818 Location: Sydney
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sando wrote: TheOtherLeft wrote: sando wrote: I would run one of these before your factory filter as the filtration won't be fine enough. Put it somewhere that you can get at and out of the way. Alot of diesels run a CAV filter with a water seperator which work well, not sure if they are only for diesels? Would these filters, with a water seperator, be any benefit in a petrol engine? I know they are very common mods for diesels but haven't heard of them being used in petrols? I have been doing abit of research around this filtration for petrols and have found that a Lucas/Delphi HDF296 CAV filter will work on petrol. They have a filtration rating of 6microns and a flow rate of 45L/hr. You can buy a pack of 10 from ebay for about $25 There are a few people running them on carbi, efi seems abit more complicated. I will have abit more of a read before I suggest anyone with an efi to run them.... What are the issues with EFI? Is it the fuel pressure or flow rate???
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Scales
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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 11:03 am |
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EFI requires a high pressure filter. usually a metal one, for christ sakes if you have EFI, DO NOT put a $3 placcy one from supercheap in.
it WILL rupture, and you will have a lovely engine fire to deal with!!!!!
remember EFI fuel pressures are around 60psi, so even the hoses you need to be carefull with!
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BlueSuzy
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want33s wrote: No point having a water seperator filter in a petrol vehicle... Just add a litre of metho to the tank every few months..
Metho is hygroscopic so it absorbs the water. Metho mixes with petrol and gets burnt.
Metho doesn't mix with diesel so you can't use it and need a proper water seperator filter. Last "Metho" i bought was named 100% ethanol on the back Not sure if they still make the old style _________________ BlueSuzy wrote: I'm over the G16b's.
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sando
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Yes it is the fuel pressure that does it apparantly. 60psi is efi however most supply pressure for common rail is above 100psi and the new lift king that arrived at work is common rail and has a cav type filter.
Want33s I would be getting a cav type filter for the filter price and ease of replacement.
Flow rate should be fine EFI
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