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andrew96
Joined: Wed Mar 06, 2013 10:51 am Posts: 64
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Hey guys, I'm looking at getting a 2005 on jimny with the vvt m13a in a couple of months, The mods Im thinking are: 4inch lift (tough dog 80mm with 30mm coil spacers) would that lift allow me to run 31x10.5r15 or 30x9.5r15? And are there any real problems running that size with stock gearing and engine, Also looking into a m15a swift conversion, if anyone can tell me if its an easy conversion, or to just leave the stock engine. Cheers.
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atari4x4

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gearing will be required.
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andrew96
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Would it be the same if I put in a m15a into it?
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BertZook

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Joined: Wed May 26, 2010 3:01 am Posts: 2979 Location: Sunshine Coast
Vehicle: Jimny, 45mm lift, 235's tyres
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^^ what atari said
pleny of info here, just search on the rigs sections
and Ill say just get the 3" lift, chop the guards and later if u still need more ad some spacers to accommodate sagging if any for bar weight ect
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andrew96
Joined: Wed Mar 06, 2013 10:51 am Posts: 64
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After reading a few jimny builds, I've seen that 2inch lift and 215/75/r15 looks better than I thought, would anyone have an idea of the cost of a 1.5 suzuki swift engine conversion? I've found an engine for $650 on eBay. Cheers
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Benz
Joined: Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1006 Location: Cervantes WA
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if you go with the 215's I would say drive it with the 1.3 first I have a non vvt jimny on 215/75's and it's fine.
there is also a 1.8 M series you can put in too. search a bit and you will find a few builds on here with the 1.8
it's quite an easy swap as far as engine swaps go.
for 4wding gearing is always better then more power
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zukenutter

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atari4x4

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zukenutter wrote: 
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BertZook

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Joined: Wed May 26, 2010 3:01 am Posts: 2979 Location: Sunshine Coast
Vehicle: Jimny, 45mm lift, 235's tyres
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zukenutter wrote: and remove the windscreen shield tint 
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Benz
Joined: Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1006 Location: Cervantes WA
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my god he's selling that already?
x2 buy that one
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zukenutter

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Benz wrote: my god he's selling that already?
x2 buy that one Yep! Wish I could afford to dump that sort of money in a matter of months. Whoever buys it will have get some serious value. The build had a sort of "here today, gone tomorrow" feel about it, was fun to watch though. I think he just wanted to outdo his buddy.
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andrew96
Joined: Wed Mar 06, 2013 10:51 am Posts: 64
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I wish I could afford that  , my budget is about $9000 for the car itself.
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andrew96
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Does anyone know of a rough price for reduction gears? Cheers.
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zukenutter

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I think the Trial Jimny gears are around $800 from what others have said. They offer 20%, 24% and 27% reduction in both high and low range.
The Sierra transfer swap has become a more popular option though and offers a large selection of different ratio options.
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andrew96
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Is it just laggy without out them? Or pretty serious?
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31zook
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Probs live with able on 215s, but 235s and up it will burn your clutch and you have limited to no control off road...
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zukenutter

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^^ what he said.
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andrew96
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Is there any other cheaper options?
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zukenutter

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Yes, swap to a NON VVT Jimny transfer for about 24% reduction, but you'll need a custom intermediate (jack) shaft and a few other misc bits
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zukenutter

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^^^ For this to work on the highway you'll need to run 31s minimum
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BertZook

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Joined: Wed May 26, 2010 3:01 am Posts: 2979 Location: Sunshine Coast
Vehicle: Jimny, 45mm lift, 235's tyres
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 198 euros plus post etc find a cheap sierra case in good nick and do it yourself cheaper option than that would be get 215's tyres. Wheel like that till u kill the tyres (2 years time more or less depending on tyre and amount of kms) and it would be enough time to u to decide if you need bigger and to get the money for it
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zukenutter

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BertZook wrote: find a cheap sierra case in good nick and do it yourself Not an easy thing to find BertZook wrote: cheaper option than that would be get 215's tyres. Wheel like that till u kill the tyres (2 years time more or less depending on tyre and amount of kms) and it would be enough time to u to decide if you need bigger and to get the money for it Great advice
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andrew96
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What if I were to buy an older jimny with the transfer case. Would that need gearing? To run 235/75/r15? Cheers
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zukenutter

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andrew96 wrote: What if I were to buy an older jimny with the transfer case. Would that need gearing? To run 235/75/r15? Cheers Different gearbox ratios. If you buy the earlier Jimny you'd need to swap the gearbox for a similar result
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andrew96
Joined: Wed Mar 06, 2013 10:51 am Posts: 64
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Ok, So im thinking of getting the newer model (05-12), I just prefer a few things on it. I would just need trialjimny gears, then it should be fine to run 29" or 30"?
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zukenutter

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31s would be better, don't go more than 20% if you want to drive at highway speed.
Like Bert said, run 215s for a while and you won't need gears, big tyres are over rated
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BertZook

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Joined: Wed May 26, 2010 3:01 am Posts: 2979 Location: Sunshine Coast
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zukenutter wrote: big tyres are over rated says the guy running 30's 
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zukenutter

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BertZook wrote: zukenutter wrote: big tyres are over rated says the guy running 30's  I knew someone would say that, only reason I'm running 30s is to gear it up. I'd prefer to be running 235s.
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BertZook

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andrew96
Joined: Wed Mar 06, 2013 10:51 am Posts: 64
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 Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 5:06 pm |
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I'd be proberly looking at 30's I don't want to have to trim the guards.
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