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rixzuk
Joined: Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 15 Location: sunnycoast
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just wondering if the centres are the same front and rear coz i want to put my lockrite in the front
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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 Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 3:03 pm |
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I think if it is the lock right with the couplers, then you cannot.
Otherwise you may be able to - Is your truck a WT or NT? I have a feeling only NT ones fit LRs in the front...
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14499 Location: Here there everywhere
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i have a lockright in the front diff of my W/T, still 2 pin carrier.
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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I am thinking of moving my LR to the front diff, as 90% of my driving is on road... Probably going to 3.9 ratio as well, 5.12 is way slow.
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14499 Location: Here there everywhere
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 Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 3:24 pm |
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the only way it will work in your front diff is with rear axle splines
i think the H/D front axles and cv have the 26 spline axles.
you need the lockright without carrier to fit in a stock front.
let me know if you wanna hock your diff gears off i know a fella that is chasing
some and there are no diff bits in the NT. i cant even find a set of 3.9s
and MUD-PIG has had no luck on finding a 3.7 center.
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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 Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 3:29 pm |
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So use the front carrier, with the lockright and 26 spline axles?
I need the 26 spline axles because of the couplers, correct?
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14499 Location: Here there everywhere
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 Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:32 pm |
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yep. the coupler replaces the side gears which drive the axle.
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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 Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:47 pm |
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Are the front carriers 4 or 2 pin generally?
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14499 Location: Here there everywhere
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 Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:53 pm |
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mostly 2 pin for a WT some sj50 WT have a 4 pin but mine didn't.
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14499 Location: Here there everywhere
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 Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 7:43 pm |
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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 Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 9:01 pm |
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Will the whole rear centre fit?
Shep, do you have Messenger?
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14499 Location: Here there everywhere
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 Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 9:10 pm |
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lump_a_charcoal wrote: Will the whole rear centre fit?
Shep, do you have Messenger?
i dont know what you are talking about so i suppose no i don't
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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 Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 9:14 pm |
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Windows live messenger - it is like talking, but with typing instead of moving lips. It would enable me, or others to chat to you, which would be good as you are some sort of suzuki oracle...
Oh and answer my previous question fukya...
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dank
Joined: Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1157 Location: VIC
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From my experiences, Pre mid 1988 WTs and 1.3 NTs had 4 pinion front diffs. I have an april '88 build WT sierra and it had a 4 pinion front. Third members are interchangable from front to rear. just need to swap the spider gears in the centre unless you have HD 26 spline axles.
When I got my airlocker, I pulled the axles and the removed the whole 3rd member centre with lockrite installed and just bolted it into the rear. My airlocker then was installed into my rear diff and shoved into the front housing with the hd axles. works good mate!
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9711 Location: NSW
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Shep from NT must be new to the internets..
Like Kurrajong Heights 
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14499 Location: Here there everywhere
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lump_a_charcoal wrote: Windows live messenger - it is like talking, but with typing instead of moving lips. It would enable me, or others to chat to you, which would be good as you are some sort of suzuki oracle...
Oh and answer my previous question fukya...
i am no oracle mate i just have a lot of spare time for research and diffs are something that i have put together for a few people in Darwin and Katherine.
ball actually does the measuring tech stuff though.
a rear diff center will bolt into the front diff all that needs to be changed is
the side gears as the front and rear axles have different splines.
N/T centers will bolt into W/T diffs but the tail shaft flanges are different,
what we did on a mates car was to make a W/T-N/T hybrid tail shaft.
haha yep i have just discovered the internet and this took 20min to type,
but fuckyas i live in the real bush. 
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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 Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 1:03 am |
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Cool, thanks all... now I have some understands.
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ball

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Joined: Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4673 Location: Katherine
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BlueSuzy wrote: Shep from NT must be new to the internets..
Like Kurrajong Heights 
He only got a mobile phone 2 or 3 years ago. He is a few years behind 
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14499 Location: Here there everywhere
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 Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 1:43 am |
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ball wrote: BlueSuzy wrote: Shep from NT must be new to the internets..
Like Kurrajong Heights  He only got a mobile phone 2 or 3 years ago. He is a few years behind 
get ya facts strait mate 14 months now.  best recovery device invented.
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mcwilly
Joined: Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 867 Location: nsw, newcastle
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at the moment i have a rear airlocker but i have sourced some spoa axles which have mechanical lockers front and rear. i have been told to put the air from the rear in the front and run a rear mechanical can this be done? also what do i need to change? the new diffs have centre reduction
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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 Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 1:02 pm |
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What ratios are the new diffs?
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basketcase
Joined: Fri Sep 22, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 242
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lump_a_charcoal wrote: I am thinking of moving my LR to the front diff, as 90% of my driving is on road... Probably going to 3.9 ratio as well, 5.12 is way slow.
Let me know when you want to sell the 5.12's. I have a set of 3.7's if you can't find 3.9's.
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mcwilly
Joined: Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 867 Location: nsw, newcastle
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 Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:46 pm |
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I am not sure how will I be able to tell
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zooker

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Joined: Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 596 Location: Queanbeyan
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mcwilly wrote: I am not sure how will I be able to tell
WT = 3.7. NT = 3.9. Providing no-one has swapped the ratios.
And to add some more tech
WT maruti's have 4-pin front diff 
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14499 Location: Here there everywhere
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 Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 2:38 am |
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3.7 ring gear has 41 teeth 3.9 has 43
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