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albie200
Joined: Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:20 am Posts: 134 Location: chch new zealand
Vehicle: Sj413k,35" silverstones
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What do you guys think? We have alot of mud over here in nz, so there's not the traction to break cvs/ axels like you do.. Ive been running 35" silverstones for about a year now.. I can get the treps cheap so that's why I'm thinking of going bigger... Anyone else run them? I know a few on here run treps but thats mostly on 60 or patrol diffs.. I'm yet to break anything in the driveline with the 35s.. Im Twin locked,6.5s,cromo cvs/axels,standard g13b... 
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
Vehicle: G13BB Jimny
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I wish you luck on a Sierra based rig.
Rhett in Qld has 37" Treps on his micro buggy with a Sierra front diff. Not sure if it has been wheeled properly yet though.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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You'll wipe out rear axles. There's a bunch of us running 35" tyres on full float vitara based rears and we have intermittent axle failure with EN-26 and 300m shafts. We have had axle failure in mud/wet rock- a big bounce will do it.
Treps are heavy.
Steve.
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dank
Joined: Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1157 Location: VIC
Vehicle: WR250F/Jeep XJ
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Treps are stupidly heavy, it won't be the traction that'll do you in but the sheer force it takes to spin the things. I reckon you'd be lucky to see change out of 60kg per corner. My 34 inch swamper with KPD alloy beadlock weighed in around 30kg per corner.
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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If i can come up with a good way of strengthening the front end i'll be running 37s on my built vitara diffs
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
Vehicle: 03 Jimny
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SierraDan wrote: I wish you luck on a Sierra based rig.
Rhett in Qld has 37" Treps on his micro buggy with a Sierra front diff. Not sure if it has been wheeled properly yet though. Pretty sure he runs 33's mainly if your talking about the micro jeep.
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
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I am and no. Its on 37" Treps. Last i wheeled with him it was on 35's.
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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Ive seen him run speed events and tough tracks crawling comps on bald 33s
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
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Yeah he changes brand/size semi regularly as they fall apart haha. The last 33's i saw him on were MTRs. Between leaving the night run we were on and him getting back to camp he only had one tyre still on a rim haha.
But anyway. I think 37's will be short lived on a zook diff.
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albie200
Joined: Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:20 am Posts: 134 Location: chch new zealand
Vehicle: Sj413k,35" silverstones
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thanks for your input guys.. what if i went to a full floater vit rear? have you broken much in front end gwagonsteve?
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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the axle shafts are the weak point in a vitara diff too as they are the same size.
i have bigger shafts in my floater and am looking at bigger again in the hopes of being able to run 37s.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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Hub bolts are currently the weak point from a torque perspective in my front end.... But that's not to say that bearings (kingpins and wheel) aren't high maintenance items- the increased leverage and weight is substantial. 37's (especially treps) are a big jump up again.
Rear axles fail before rear hub bolts.
I don't want stronger hub bolts as I'd rather replace hub bolts than diff gears or axles.
Steve.
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tassie jeeper
Joined: Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:39 pm Posts: 246
Vehicle: 1995 2.0V6 Vitara LWB
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i have 35" creepy's and on rim weigh 55KG's each and only have about 10mm tread left in the middle it'd be safe to say mounted rim and tyre 37" treps would be well over 60KG's each
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
Vehicle: G13BB Jimny
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I dunno if i can lift 60kg or not, but i can definitely lift a 37" trep with ease.
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
Vehicle: G13BB Jimny
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 Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 8:50 am |
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A 40" trep on alloy rim is 60kg.
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11_evl
Joined: Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 846 Location: logan reserve, Brisb
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SierraDan wrote: A 40" trep on alloy rim is 60kg. Yes it is
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tassie jeeper
Joined: Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:39 pm Posts: 246
Vehicle: 1995 2.0V6 Vitara LWB
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SierraDan wrote: A 40" trep on alloy rim is 60kg. yer but it'd be more on a steel
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
Vehicle: 03 Jimny
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 Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:03 pm |
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Rhett drove his micro on the weekend with his sticky treps down at city view. Far as I know no breakages.
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
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 Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:20 pm |
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tassie jeeper wrote: SierraDan wrote: A 40" trep on alloy rim is 60kg. yer but it'd be more on a steel  Thats why i wrote alloy rim for comparison.
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