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dank
Joined: Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1157 Location: VIC
Vehicle: WR250F/Jeep XJ
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 Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 11:15 am |
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Hey Guys was chatting with my supplier saying we have a hole in the market for a good shock for Vitaras and he said he has part numbers for Vitara's available. Just wanting to gauge interest, potenitally look at a group buy, they'll be a custom order from Germany in my suppliers next shipment so full payment is required upfront and it will be a wait somewhere in the 6-10 week range. For those not familiar with the advantages of a Bilstein over something like a dobinsons, OME or EFS twin tube, is that it's a monotube construction, the shock piston is 46mm in diameter, compared to 35mm piston in a twin tube design and has a variable velocity valve stack shim, meaning its damping rate changes depending on the velocity of the shaft compression. It's the same tech you find in Fox, King and Radflo style race shocks, however Bilstein are very good with the valving and we find that they offer superior on road performance as well as a greater capacity to control a vehicle in offroad situations as well due to the physically larger piston and better valve tech. Pricing hasn't been set yet but average price is around $360 for struts and $320 for rear shocks. The warranty is two years, the shocks are fully rebuildable, current it costs $187 per shock for a full rebuild, so these are a buy once type shock that will last from our experience at least 70-100000km before needing a rebuild. This type of thing for the front a B6 style Bilstein  B6 rear shock.  If you think you might be interested in something like this, post below. if we get 10-20 keen, then I'll work on posting up some solid group buy discount rate and we'll get something underway, taking deposits to secure your order and go from there. We can package with EFS or Dobinsons springs as well for a full kit. Sorry about the salesy type post, but I think these are a really good option for you guys looking for a bit more out of your suspension, in a bolt in application. I think the two most important things in regards to mods on a vehicle are suspension and tyres. Good tyres to maintain traction and good suspension to keep them on the ground to keep that traction! Dan
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klutched

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Joined: Wed May 16, 2012 3:46 pm Posts: 1691 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 99 Grand Vitara
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Are you able to post up lengths of both struts and shocks please.
EDIT: Are the prices each or per pair?
Last edited by klutched on Mon Sep 28, 2015 12:44 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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 Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 12:38 pm |
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Possible interest depending on shock open-closed lengths.
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ozzycouch
Joined: Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:23 pm Posts: 256 Location: Maroochydore Sunny Coast
Vehicle: SWB Vit
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^^ As above with lengths. Also, can you just buy an outer case for these? All my rear shock injuries have been to the body of the shock not internal problems.
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dank
Joined: Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1157 Location: VIC
Vehicle: WR250F/Jeep XJ
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 Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 3:04 pm |
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I'll find out shocks lengths. Prices quoted are each..
Housings for the rear shocks we could probably chase up. I'll find out on that as well.
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got_bar_work
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 8:30 pm Posts: 2214 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SQ625
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 Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 5:30 pm |
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If u can get struts with 200mm travel and valved for gv im in
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frak
Joined: Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:02 pm Posts: 252
Vehicle: Vitara 1.6
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 Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:47 pm |
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So that price is what you expect in a group buy? Or std price we hope to better with enough numbers? Just to clarify.
They are a good brand so probably in. (How soon it happens will play a role.)
Thanks for volunteering to set this up.
Would want them sized for a lifted vit of course.
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frak
Joined: Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:02 pm Posts: 252
Vehicle: Vitara 1.6
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Is this still alive?
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got_bar_work
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 8:30 pm Posts: 2214 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SQ625
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I hope so . I realy want inverted monotube shocks . The rods on twin tube shocks are not strong enough for offroading a gv at full extension . I recon they bow and thats y everyone keeps having shocks leak. The sway bar just keeps them from having full down travel whick would be y they seem to last long with one still installed. The dobinson struts are a good length so if dank can get some bilstein the same we will be sweet.
Dank if u cant what about the universal 40mm strut blanks they sell where u need to weld on your own ears and machine the pin to suit . What would be the cost on one of them
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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mate you know im keen on a set for the front..... sick of the dobinsons.
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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dank
Joined: Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1157 Location: VIC
Vehicle: WR250F/Jeep XJ
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 Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 11:19 am |
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Sorry guys, the supplier keeps changing his mind, he's not really interested unless i pre-order about 30 sets, and then the applications are only for the older vitaras anyway, no NGV listings.
I'm gonna put this on the back order as I've got a lot of other stuff to follow up on.
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dank
Joined: Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1157 Location: VIC
Vehicle: WR250F/Jeep XJ
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got_bar_work wrote: I hope so . I realy want inverted monotube shocks . The rods on twin tube shocks are not strong enough for offroading a gv at full extension . I recon they bow and thats y everyone keeps having shocks leak. The sway bar just keeps them from having full down travel whick would be y they seem to last long with one still installed. The dobinson struts are a good length so if dank can get some bilstein the same we will be sweet.
Dank if u cant what about the universal 40mm strut blanks they sell where u need to weld on your own ears and machine the pin to suit . What would be the cost on one of them it's probably easier if you speak directly with them about this mate. I'll PM you their details. cheers Dan
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ozzycouch
Joined: Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:23 pm Posts: 256 Location: Maroochydore Sunny Coast
Vehicle: SWB Vit
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Thanks for having a dig for us Dan. Let us know if any other options come up.
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frak
Joined: Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:02 pm Posts: 252
Vehicle: Vitara 1.6
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 Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 3:59 pm |
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So if each interested person orders 10.....?
Thanks for having a go pity it didnt work out.
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dank
Joined: Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1157 Location: VIC
Vehicle: WR250F/Jeep XJ
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 Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 4:36 pm |
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No worries guys I'll keep on the hunt for a good monotube application. If I find anything that fits a reasonable price:quality formula I'll let you know.
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murcod
Joined: Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 327 Location: Adelaide
Vehicle: XL-7 (gone) + Kizashi
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Built4thrashing wrote: mate you know im keen on a set for the front..... sick of the dobinsons. Koni make front struts for '88-'05 GV/ XL-7 - part number is 8741-1394Sport . Standard length though of course (I measured mine and they were slightly longer than the stock '04 XL-7 struts.) They are top adjustable for rebound. 
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