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brendan
Joined: Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1484 Location: Sydney
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just got some new rubber bushes to go in and i want to look after these ones so i want to use the right grease on them.
ive got a tube a tube of these if they will be ok
Castrol APXT
A blue colored grease with enhanced tackiness for improved performance in operating conditions characterized by extremes of heat, vibration and dampness
Castrol EPL2
Chassis lube and wheel bearings.
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zookster666
Joined: Sat Jun 27, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1090
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Either one should be fine its only to let the pins slip rather than squeaking and improve the life of the bushes also gives better ride quality.
Last edited by zookster666 on Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:06 am, edited 1 time in total.
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DMAC

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Joined: Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1612 Location: North Brisbane
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Good question. I just bought some grease for my bushes today aswell.
PBR rubber grease. States its a castor oil based grease. Expensive though 110grms for $14.
What you really want to know is does it effect the rubber long term?
I think CASTROL OPTITEMP LG is the go.
Compatible with elastomers based on synthetic materials (e.g. NBR, CR) and Nrbase as well as with rubber.
http://www.castrol.com/castrol/productd ... Id=6004156
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brendan
Joined: Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1484 Location: Sydney
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 Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:07 am |
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when i greae my bushes before. i usto grease basicly the whole bush so it will be free for movement in anyway. then i put a little bit of grease on the shackle where the bush sits to always that to slide nice
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:24 am |
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grease kills rubber!
pbr rubber grease is for brake seals!!!
castrol make a rubber grease, washes off though
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brendan
Joined: Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1484 Location: Sydney
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royce wrote: grease kills rubber! pbr rubber grease is for brake seals!!! castrol make a rubber grease, washes off though
ok then how do i keep them lubricated?
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DMAC

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Joined: Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1612 Location: North Brisbane
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brendan wrote: royce wrote: grease kills rubber! pbr rubber grease is for brake seals!!! castrol make a rubber grease, washes off though ok then how do i keep them lubricated?
X2 
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vandle
Joined: Sun May 10, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 50 Location: Brisbane
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Try a lanolin base grease. As far as i'm aware its ok on rubber.
Have been using it for quite a while and have'nt had any problems.
Hard to wash out, sticks to everything. As its not for high temp applications it should be alright.
Cheers.
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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DMAC wrote: brendan wrote: royce wrote: grease kills rubber! pbr rubber grease is for brake seals!!! castrol make a rubber grease, washes off though ok then how do i keep them lubricated? X2 
rubber is suppposed to grip the metal surfaces and twist with it, not slide over it
another reason why urethane is better 
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brendan
Joined: Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1484 Location: Sydney
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 Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 2:50 am |
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ok then well it would still need to be lubricated so it twist in the springs?
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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no, the rubber twists in itself
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brendan
Joined: Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1484 Location: Sydney
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oooooooooooo i see. so you recon i shouldnt grease them?
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TASSIETOYUKI

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Joined: Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 490 Location: Rosevears Tas
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 Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:53 pm |
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You can grease them, but they will fall apart in the not to distant future. I was always using rubber because of its greater flex but got sick of replacing them. now use urethane and has been all good since
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brendan
Joined: Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1484 Location: Sydney
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 Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 2:24 pm |
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will a rubber grease be suitable? im am guessing it would be?
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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rubber grease won't kill the bushes, but it's pretty useless in the application- it's too light.
Lanolin sounds like a good option of you want to experiment with lubrication
HOWEVER - grit and sand stick to grease, and will then make a grinding paste that will flog everything out anyway.
IMHO regardless of what you do, you'll need to pull everything apart once a year so so for a clean up/bushing replace anyway.
I have seen some very soft urethane, but I'm not sure what their life will be like.
Steve.
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bails

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Joined: Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 131 Location: darwin
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 Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 2:42 pm |
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im in the process of putting somwOME springs in at moment. so no lube is the way to go yer? hope so cause i dont want to go and redo it all again.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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OME springs come with urethane bushes which benefit from grease or the squeaking will drive you insane.
They do not require any sort of special grease AFAIK - urethane isn't (basically) affected by grease.
Steve.
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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Gwagensteve wrote: I have seen some very soft urethane, but I'm not sure what their life will be like.
Steve.
About 3 months before my fixed ends split  lasted years in teh shackles though and that was 40 duro, very spongy 
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Rockhopper
Joined: Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1265 Location: Chipping Norton
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Gwagensteve wrote: HOWEVER - grit and sand stick to grease, and will then make a grinding paste that will flog everything out anyway.
Steve beat me to it. If you do want to try Lanolin though, there's a product called Lanotec. Should be able to get it from Ripco and the likes I think
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vandle
Joined: Sun May 10, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 50 Location: Brisbane
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Supercrap also sells lanolin based grease in tubs.
Cheers
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