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Brett

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Joined: Tue May 27, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1791 Location: Central coast NSW
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is there any one on here running one of these engines? can you bolt them up to a 1.3 ltr 5 speed?
just been reading about them and want to know how there go as it would be easer than 4ag i'm looking to do because they bolt up to 1 ltr ( my car is a 1 ltr) mounts.
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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ive driven an F6A sierra, it was shithouse, absolute shithouse
and they are closer to 1.3 mounts than 1 litre anyway
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Damo

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Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4661 Location: Brisbane
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Easiest way to do it would be to get a front cut, all the bits should just bolt straight in. I've never driven one though, so can't comment on the performance.
There is nothing straight forward about a 4A swap, as everything has to be fabricated. And as Pubic will attest to, T50 transmissions are not the easiest things to find. I've driven a 4A powered Sierra though, it went like a stabbed rat 
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Brett

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Joined: Tue May 27, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1791 Location: Central coast NSW
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 Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 9:32 pm |
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i was reading about a few cars with these engines and got me thinking would be easyer than a 4ag but if they are shit to drive i'll go with the 4ag.
i know there is nothing straight forward with the swap. i'll have to do engine, gear box, radiator monuts, loom wiring,jack shaft, fuel pump and exhaust. is there anything else i need yo know before i go get the engine>
do i have to mod the trans tunnel to fit the box in a 1 ltr body?
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Damo

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Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4661 Location: Brisbane
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Brett wrote: i know there is nothing straight forward with the swap. i'll have to do engine, gear box, radiator monuts, loom wiring,jack shaft, fuel pump and exhaust. is there anything else i need yo know before i go get the engine> Not that I can think of, bit i've never done a 4AG swap! You're bound to come across a few things that you didn't think of, you'll just have to sort those as you go. Brett wrote: do i have to mod the trans tunnel to fit the box in a 1 ltr body?
I don't recall my mate's zook having any tunnel mods, but don't take that as gospel.
What engine are you looking at getting?
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joeblow
Joined: Sat May 10, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 3273 Location: melbourne
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f6?....what.....someone wants a golfcart?.......  ummmm...hard to get parts........would be better suited to a chainsaw.....
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Brett

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Joined: Tue May 27, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1791 Location: Central coast NSW
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 Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 11:51 pm |
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a sierra is about the same size as a golf cart so maybe thats why people like the engine.
i'm looking to get a engine out of a 89- 90's corolla. there are a few cars anound here for about $200. one has a dead head gasket and the other needs new rings. the engine has to come out any way so might as well fix a gasket or rings while it is and i get the loom.
now just have to track down a t50 out of a 76 celica and away i go.
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cj_zuki
Joined: Sun Sep 10, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 110
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Yes, the F6A will bolt in on 1.0 mounts and no, it shouldn't be shithouse unless there were issues that needed addressing. Having driven one I would put it as better than a 1.6 carby and I have a K6A going in to mine which is better again but good luck trying to find either a F6A or K6A.
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cj_zuki
Joined: Sun Sep 10, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 110
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Oh and parts aren't hard to get at all.
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303zuke

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Joined: Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2447
Vehicle: LJ50V, SJ70
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I presume you'd be wanting an F6A Turbo, not N/A? The F6A Turbo in Japanese Jimnys put out as much power as a G13B, but with less torque. There are more that a couple of Cappucinos getting around with the F8B block with the F6A-T head and ancilliaries that really honk along.
All F blocks F8A(LJ80, SK80 Carry), F10A(1.0lt Sierra, Super Carry) (4 cyls), F5A(Mighty Boy, Alto), F6A(Alto), F6A-T(Cappucino) and F8B(Hatch) (3 cyls) all have the same bellhousing pattern, clutch style, and Rad connections to make the swap possible.
I'd love to put a hybrid F8B/F6A-T into an LJ80!
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303zuke

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Joined: Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2447
Vehicle: LJ50V, SJ70
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I presume you'd be wanting an F6A Turbo, not N/A? The F6A Turbo in Japanese Jimnys put out as much power as a G13B, but with less torque. There are more that a couple of Cappucinos getting around with the F8B block with the F6A-T head and ancilliaries that really honk along.
All F blocks F8A(LJ80, SK80 Carry), F10A(1.0lt Sierra, Super Carry) (4 cyls), F5A(Mighty Boy, Alto), F6A(Alto), F6A-T(Cappucino) and F8B(Hatch) (3 cyls) all have the same bellhousing pattern, clutch style, and Rad connections to make the swap possible.
I'd love to put a hybrid F8B/F6A-T into an LJ80!
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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Brett wrote: a sierra is about the same size as a golf cart so maybe thats why people like the engine.
now just have to track down a t50 out of a 76 celica and away i go.
T18 5spd the same to. tunnel stay`s std , clutch goe`s hyd, have to try to get that beside the booster ( thats why i throu mine in the bin )
How fast do you want to go??
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Brett

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Joined: Tue May 27, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1791 Location: Central coast NSW
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this is a grave dig, i never found a usable engine that was under $1000 so it got caned.
i'll be going turbo 1.3 again in my car i have now.
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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toyota 5k, 1500cc. 7k 1800 multi point inj torque ALL day & still rev, out of lite ace van`s, 5sd out of ke30 to ke50, cable clutch, lite ace box can be used but the shifter is cable.
EDIT: & thay don`t come in at 3.5 tonne, mine was VERY front heavy, found myself on the front bar more than once.
Steve
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