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Brocbeau
Joined: Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 189 Location: GoldCoast Babbey
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i wanna put a 3-4 inch lift on my 95 seirra after this weekend i found out that putting a hole in a fuel tank wasent much fun and their hard to find.. new fuek tanks that being,
what are the price ranges for this its got leaf suspension and i plan on keeping the leafs i want it only really for muddin..  :)
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Ben_Sierra

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Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4472 Location: Perth
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If the only reason for the lift is to protect the fuel tank, maybe some armour for the tank might be an easier option.
Are you looking for 3-4" Spring lift? Thats quite a lot, not to mention from what I've heard you won't get away with it in QLD.
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Brocbeau
Joined: Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 189 Location: GoldCoast Babbey
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Ben_Sierra wrote: If the only reason for the lift is to protect the fuel tank, maybe some armour for the tank might be an easier option.
Are you looking for 3-4" Spring lift? Thats quite a lot, not to mention from what I've heard you won't get away with it in QLD.
Yeah i lve in QLD and the legal limit is no more than 2 inchs of its orgnl lift, but the rules are looose i saw i guy on the weekend with a series 60 landcruser with a 6 inch skyjack and 3 inch body running 32 muddies with plates and rego hahh
and their leaf spings yes
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nick.gooding
Joined: Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 195 Location: QLD, Bonogin
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hey mate, i put a dent in my tank on the weekend, and my chassi
any way i would recommend a 2inch suspension and 2inch body lift and then just a tank guard, there are some on here at the moment in the for sale section, look nice too.
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Ben_Sierra

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Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4472 Location: Perth
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Perhaps if you are causing that much damage to the car, you need to be looking at:
1. Your driving style/ability.
2. Driving tracks which suit your vehicle better.
Much cheaper that way...
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Brocbeau
Joined: Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 189 Location: GoldCoast Babbey
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Ben_Sierra wrote: Perhaps if you are causing that much damage to the car, you need to be looking at:
1. Your driving style/ability. 2. Driving tracks which suit your vehicle better.
Much cheaper that way...
hahah i think im quite capible at driving my zook thanks buddie,
and it was a rock comming out from a undercarrige rut that clipped tha tank.
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nick.gooding
Joined: Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 195 Location: QLD, Bonogin
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Yeah i lve in QLD and the legal limit is no more than 2 inchs of its orgnl lift, but the rules are looose i saw i guy on the weekend with a series 60 landcruser with a 6 inch skyjack and 3 inch body running 32 muddies with plates and rego hahh
and their leaf spings yes[/quote]
i'm on the Gold Coast and my sierras 6inches or so bigger than standard, they dont stick out that much because there still fairly small. thats 2inch suspension, 2inch body lift and 31's not to mention im on my p's and i havent had any trouble from the cops, been pulled over but no hassels.
where in QLD do you live?
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Brocbeau
Joined: Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 189 Location: GoldCoast Babbey
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nick.gooding wrote: Yeah i lve in QLD and the legal limit is no more than 2 inchs of its orgnl lift, but the rules are looose i saw i guy on the weekend with a series 60 landcruser with a 6 inch skyjack and 3 inch body running 32 muddies with plates and rego hahh and their leaf spings yes i'm on the Gold Coast and my sierras 6inches or so bigger than standard, they dont stick out that much because there still fairly small. thats 2inch suspension, 2inch body lift and 31's not to mention im on my p's and i havent had any trouble from the cops, been pulled over but no hassels. where in QLD do you live?[/quote]
True that, i live on the coast, yeah thats what i need im fuken paranoid about ripping diffs off and smashin tanks, just for my own self consious, what did you pay for your gear?
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Ben_Sierra

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Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4472 Location: Perth
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Brocbeau wrote: Ben_Sierra wrote: Perhaps if you are causing that much damage to the car, you need to be looking at:
1. Your driving style/ability. 2. Driving tracks which suit your vehicle better.
Much cheaper that way... hahah i think im quite capible at driving my zook thanks buddie, and it was a rock comming out from a undercarrige rut that clipped tha tank.
I've driven numerous trips (through some pretty rough terrain) in standard height Sierras and Vitaras, never put a rock through my fuel tank. But thats cos I look where I'm going and pick my lines. And if I know I can't make it without damaging my car, I find a way around.
That way you save a lot of money on unneccesary lifts and repairs to the undercarriage...
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Brocbeau
Joined: Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 189 Location: GoldCoast Babbey
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Ben_Sierra wrote: Brocbeau wrote: Ben_Sierra wrote: Perhaps if you are causing that much damage to the car, you need to be looking at:
1. Your driving style/ability. 2. Driving tracks which suit your vehicle better.
Much cheaper that way... hahah i think im quite capible at driving my zook thanks buddie, and it was a rock comming out from a undercarrige rut that clipped tha tank. I've driven numerous trips (through some pretty rough terrain) in standard height Sierras and Vitaras, never put a rock through my fuel tank. But thats cos I look where I'm going and pick my lines. And if I know I can't make it without damaging my car, I find a way around. That way you save a lot of money on unneccesary lifts and repairs to the undercarriage...
theres the problem your zook is limited to were it can go, and taking narrow lines through a rutted out valley is risky on is self, why what do you do with your car occasional bush trip and beach trips?
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Ben_Sierra

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Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4472 Location: Perth
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Brocbeau wrote: Ben_Sierra wrote: Brocbeau wrote: Ben_Sierra wrote: Perhaps if you are causing that much damage to the car, you need to be looking at:
1. Your driving style/ability. 2. Driving tracks which suit your vehicle better.
Much cheaper that way... hahah i think im quite capible at driving my zook thanks buddie, and it was a rock comming out from a undercarrige rut that clipped tha tank. I've driven numerous trips (through some pretty rough terrain) in standard height Sierras and Vitaras, never put a rock through my fuel tank. But thats cos I look where I'm going and pick my lines. And if I know I can't make it without damaging my car, I find a way around. That way you save a lot of money on unneccesary lifts and repairs to the undercarriage... theres the problem your zook is limited to were it can go, and taking narrow lines through a rutted out valley is risky on is self, why what do you do with your car occasional bush trip and beach trips?
No, it goes all over WA. It has since had a 2" spring lift but thats only as I had to replace the shot old springs anyway. You can always find a way around anything if you don't wish to damage your car. And if you take things carefully there is no need to put rocks through anything.
If however you like throwing your car around and racing up hills, then by all means lift it 4 inches to help clear the rocks, but you'll only end up with the car upside down, I reckon...
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nick.gooding
Joined: Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 195 Location: QLD, Bonogin
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I got my lift from a bloke in Brisbane, he was just selling everything off he project, he wanted $500 for the 2inch suspension lift and an extra $100 for a tough dog return to center, offer $400 for the lot and he accepted haha and they were brand new.
Then 210 for the body lift from on here, then i got my tires for around $1200.
goes pretty good now. But then again i have managed to dent my fuel tank, my chassis rail, my cross member on the chassis and my front diff center haha.
Where were ya, what track, when you did it.
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nick.gooding
Joined: Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 195 Location: QLD, Bonogin
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Ben_Sierra wrote: Brocbeau wrote: Ben_Sierra wrote: Brocbeau wrote: Ben_Sierra wrote: Perhaps if you are causing that much damage to the car, you need to be looking at:
1. Your driving style/ability. 2. Driving tracks which suit your vehicle better.
Much cheaper that way... hahah i think im quite capible at driving my zook thanks buddie, and it was a rock comming out from a undercarrige rut that clipped tha tank. I've driven numerous trips (through some pretty rough terrain) in standard height Sierras and Vitaras, never put a rock through my fuel tank. But thats cos I look where I'm going and pick my lines. And if I know I can't make it without damaging my car, I find a way around. That way you save a lot of money on unneccesary lifts and repairs to the undercarriage... theres the problem your zook is limited to were it can go, and taking narrow lines through a rutted out valley is risky on is self, why what do you do with your car occasional bush trip and beach trips? No, it goes all over WA. It has since had a 2" spring lift but thats only as I had to replace the shot old springs anyway. You can always find a way around anything if you don't wish to damage your car. And if you take things carefully there is no need to put rocks through anything. If however you like throwing your car around and racing up hills, then by all means lift it 4 inches to help clear the rocks, but you'll only end up with the car upside down, I reckon...
It all depends on what you plan on using your car for, i hate taking the easy track but i no my limits, i learnt that after having the zuke on its side and nearly rolling it a few times.
sounds to me that yours is used more as a tourer and not a bash around 4wd.
If your thinking of a 4inch lift you have to remember that a 4inch suspension lift wont let you run much bigger tires with out scrubbing. You will need a body lift as well. So a 4inch suspension and then 2inch body lift is huge in a sierra if your then running bigger tires on top of that. thats just my opinion though..
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Brocbeau
Joined: Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 189 Location: GoldCoast Babbey
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nick.gooding wrote: I got my lift from a bloke in Brisbane, he was just selling everything off he project, he wanted $500 for the 2inch suspension lift and an extra $100 for a tough dog return to center, offer $400 for the lot and he accepted haha and they were brand new. Then 210 for the body lift from on here, then i got my tires for around $1200. goes pretty good now. But then again i have managed to dent my fuel tank, my chassis rail, my cross member on the chassis and my front diff center haha. Where were ya, what track, when you did it.
i think i might of seen yours around hahah what colour and i went out behind dream world under the rail way tracks it was all cutt up and drap i gotr through and out then got out to admire my work and smelt fuel "FAAARRKEN SPEWIN"
hahah
400! FOR YOUR WHOLE LIFT
waaaaat, i caleed up some company in nreang and their like ohh we start around 100 for any car im like will you do 3 inches their like uhhm nah probally not mate im said im not giving you 1k for 2 lousy inches
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Brocbeau
Joined: Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 189 Location: GoldCoast Babbey
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Brocbeau wrote: nick.gooding wrote: I got my lift from a bloke in Brisbane, he was just selling everything off he project, he wanted $500 for the 2inch suspension lift and an extra $100 for a tough dog return to center, offer $400 for the lot and he accepted haha and they were brand new. Then 210 for the body lift from on here, then i got my tires for around $1200. goes pretty good now. But then again i have managed to dent my fuel tank, my chassis rail, my cross member on the chassis and my front diff center haha. Where were ya, what track, when you did it. i think i might of seen yours around hahah what colour and i went out behind dream world under the rail way tracks it was all cutt up and drap i gotr through and out then got out to admire my work and smelt fuel "FAAARRKEN SPEWIN" hahah 400! FOR YOUR WHOLE LIFT waaaaat, i caleed up some company in nreang and their like ohh we start around 100 for any car im like will you do 3 inches their like uhhm nah probally not mate im said im not giving you 1k for 2 lousy inches
droped in* went through.. then got out to admire..
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nick.gooding
Joined: Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 195 Location: QLD, Bonogin
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Brocbeau wrote: Brocbeau wrote: nick.gooding wrote: I got my lift from a bloke in Brisbane, he was just selling everything off he project, he wanted $500 for the 2inch suspension lift and an extra $100 for a tough dog return to center, offer $400 for the lot and he accepted haha and they were brand new. Then 210 for the body lift from on here, then i got my tires for around $1200. goes pretty good now. But then again i have managed to dent my fuel tank, my chassis rail, my cross member on the chassis and my front diff center haha. Where were ya, what track, when you did it. i think i might of seen yours around hahah what colour and i went out behind dream world under the rail way tracks it was all cutt up and drap i gotr through and out then got out to admire my work and smelt fuel "FAAARRKEN SPEWIN" hahah 400! FOR YOUR WHOLE LIFT waaaaat, i caleed up some company in nreang and their like ohh we start around 100 for any car im like will you do 3 inches their like uhhm nah probally not mate im said im not giving you 1k for 2 lousy inches droped in* went through.. then got out to admire..
haha that sucks,
mines white with black standard rims.
yeah i was stoked about the price, if i was to do it again i would just buy some 2inch lifted springs off eBay,
like this
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Suzuki-Sierra-2- ... 5d26e5506d
fairly sure thats what mine is anyway, been pretty good.
How old are you, still at school??
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Brocbeau
Joined: Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 189 Location: GoldCoast Babbey
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nick.gooding wrote: Brocbeau wrote: Brocbeau wrote: nick.gooding wrote: I got my lift from a bloke in Brisbane, he was just selling everything off he project, he wanted $500 for the 2inch suspension lift and an extra $100 for a tough dog return to center, offer $400 for the lot and he accepted haha and they were brand new. Then 210 for the body lift from on here, then i got my tires for around $1200. goes pretty good now. But then again i have managed to dent my fuel tank, my chassis rail, my cross member on the chassis and my front diff center haha. Where were ya, what track, when you did it. i think i might of seen yours around hahah what colour and i went out behind dream world under the rail way tracks it was all cutt up and drap i gotr through and out then got out to admire my work and smelt fuel "FAAARRKEN SPEWIN" hahah 400! FOR YOUR WHOLE LIFT waaaaat, i caleed up some company in nreang and their like ohh we start around 100 for any car im like will you do 3 inches their like uhhm nah probally not mate im said im not giving you 1k for 2 lousy inches droped in* went through.. then got out to admire.. haha that sucks, mines white with black standard rims. yeah i was stoked about the price, if i was to do it again i would just buy some 2inch lifted springs off eBay, like this http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Suzuki-Sierra-2- ... 5d26e5506dfairly sure thats what mine is anyway, been pretty good. How old are you, still at school??
true, hmm has your got rock sliders??
and yeah i seen them before on ebay but they went rated or branded so i kinda stayed away haha, yea bro im in year 11, i should have my p's in like 2-3 weeks for hollidays yewww
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nick.gooding
Joined: Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 195 Location: QLD, Bonogin
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oh ok, there are cheaper ways to get hight like extended shackles but they dont give any flex. what school you go to. I'm in year 12 at the Australian Tech College on the gold coast.. will have to go for a drive when you get your p's
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Brocbeau
Joined: Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 189 Location: GoldCoast Babbey
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nick.gooding wrote: oh ok, there are cheaper ways to get hight like extended shackles but they dont give any flex. what school you go to. I'm in year 12 at the Australian Tech College on the gold coast.. will have to go for a drive when you get your p's
Ahhh true that, thats what i was going to do just extended shackles, i wonder if the travel on those springs are worth the money from ebay,
i go to pac pines lad, yeah yeah for sure, do you have the guy from brissys number?
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Ben_Sierra

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One thing to consider about body lift is that it will give you no more cleaance at all. Your tank, diffs, and chassis will still be in exactly the same place. And spring lifts will lift the tank, but the diffs will still be in the same place.
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steak_knife

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shep
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nick.gooding wrote: If your thinking of a 4inch lift you have to remember that a 4inch suspension lift wont let you run much bigger tires with out scrubbing. You will need a body lift as well. So a 4inch suspension and then 2inch body lift is huge in a sierra if your then running bigger tires on top of that. thats just my opinion though..
mine has 4" springs and fatzook's shackles and i fit bigger tyres with out any scrubbing. i have read the comments about not being able to fit bigger tyres with just a spring lift a few times and i just cant get my head around that way of thinking.
they fit alright i reckon.

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nick.gooding
Joined: Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 195 Location: QLD, Bonogin
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Ben_Sierra wrote: One thing to consider about body lift is that it will give you no more cleaance at all. Your tank, diffs, and chassis will still be in exactly the same place. And spring lifts will lift the tank, but the diffs will still be in the same place.
yeah thats true, some diff, a tank and even a under body guard can protect most things..
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Brocbeau
Joined: Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 189 Location: GoldCoast Babbey
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shep wrote: nick.gooding wrote: If your thinking of a 4inch lift you have to remember that a 4inch suspension lift wont let you run much bigger tires with out scrubbing. You will need a body lift as well. So a 4inch suspension and then 2inch body lift is huge in a sierra if your then running bigger tires on top of that. thats just my opinion though..
mine has 4" springs and fatzook's shackles and i fit bigger tyres with out any scrubbing. i have read the comments about not being able to fit bigger tyres with just a spring lift a few times and i just cant get my head around that way of thinking. they fit alright i reckon. 
true, were are you from?
i might just do 4 and 2 body.
what am i expected to get roited for that? hah
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v.w.dave
Joined: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1437 Location: The Hills Sydney
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get some 2" lift springs for the rear put your rears up front ((RUF)) 2" body and some 31s its all you need. I have mine jacked all to hell and I hate it and I am bringing it back to exactly what I just said. I had a zook this week end run rings around me with that set up.
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Ben_Sierra

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Of course, springs can compress as well, and when they do the lowest point at which your fuel tank will sit will be just as low as it was with stock springs...
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shep wrote: nick.gooding wrote: If your thinking of a 4inch lift you have to remember that a 4inch suspension lift wont let you run much bigger tires with out scrubbing. You will need a body lift as well. So a 4inch suspension and then 2inch body lift is huge in a sierra if your then running bigger tires on top of that. thats just my opinion though..
mine has 4" springs and fatzook's shackles and i fit bigger tyres with out any scrubbing. i have read the comments about not being able to fit bigger tyres with just a spring lift a few times and i just cant get my head around that way of thinking. they fit alright i reckon. 
what brand of springs are thoes shep??
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shep
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alex wrote: what brand of springs are thoes shep??
they are calmini which apparently are no good, but i recon they work well.
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Boys I don't want to sound like your dad but there is nothing worse than that blue light coming on behind you when you know that it is defective.
You are on your measly 4 point "P"s and its -1 for the lift, -1 for the big tyres, -1 for no mudflaps and -1 for whatever other dodgy crap you have done.
DON'T sell your BMX you will be needing it soon. It may not be this week but it will happen.....
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Ben_Sierra

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2stroker wrote: Boys I don't want to sound like your dad but there is nothing worse than that blue light coming on behind you when you know that it is defective.
You are on your measly 4 point "P"s and its -1 for the lift, -1 for the big tyres, -1 for no mudflaps and -1 for whatever other dodgy crap you have done.
DON'T sell your BMX you will be needing it soon. It may not be this week but it will happen.....
Oh DAD... stop spoiling our fun... 
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