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Stuey

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Joined: Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 621 Location: Perth, WA
Vehicle: 97 SV420/627 SWB Vitara
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 Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:43 pm |
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Need ideas on how to hold the crank pulley stationary (J20A) while removing the retaining bolt. Ive been to my two local auto stores and neither have anything. Tried a chain style oil filter wrench and just bent the crap outta it. Any other suggestions?
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
Vehicle: MY2019 Jimny
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 Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:47 pm |
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Pull off a manifold, stuff some rag in the cylinder bore.
If it is in the car, can you just put it in gear and rattle gun it?
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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Is your car a manual Stuey? Is it your car?
Have you thort about h/brake on real hard & say, putting the g/bow in 4th?? 
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Stuey

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Joined: Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 621 Location: Perth, WA
Vehicle: 97 SV420/627 SWB Vitara
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 Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:50 pm |
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Yeah manual.. and yes its my car. So ur suggesting chuck it in 4th, reefing up the handbrake hard and trying that way? I take it slight backward rotation on the crank wont do damage its only major rotation.
Cant be farcked pulling off manifolds lump, but thanks for offering up a suggestion.
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:58 pm |
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Stuey wrote: Yeah manual.. and yes its my car. So ur suggesting chuck it in 4th, reefing up the handbrake hard and trying that way? I take it slight backward rotation on the crank wont do damage its only major rotation.
Cant be farcked pulling off manifolds lump, but thanks for offering up a suggestion.
It's worked for me for over 2 decades.
No damage, it essentially what the eng dose anyway 
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Stuey

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Joined: Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 621 Location: Perth, WA
Vehicle: 97 SV420/627 SWB Vitara
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 Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:05 pm |
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Just how much force can i get away with here. I've just been outside and tried your suggestion but I'm litterally hanging off my spanner and it aint moving. Tried tapping it with a hammer. Next idea is a breaker bar for leverage but I'm just worried I can overdo the pressure and stuff something..
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:08 pm |
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Stuey wrote: Just how much force can i get away with here. I've just been outside and tried your suggestion but I'm litterally hanging off my spanner and it aint moving. Tried tapping it with a hammer. Next idea is a breaker bar for leverage but I'm just worried I can overdo the pressure and stuff something..
Spanner?  good luck!!!
Go the breaker bar & go hard!!!! When the bolt let's go you will hear a crack& unless you have broken the socket, it's loose.
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:09 pm |
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you wont hurt anything
next step is breaker bar jammed against the chassis rail and bump the starter, never fails 
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:12 pm |
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royce wrote: you wont hurt anything next step is breaker bar jammed against the chassis rail and bump the starter, never fails 
Wanted to try it this way 1st, can fail, seen a socket explode.
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Stuey

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Joined: Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 621 Location: Perth, WA
Vehicle: 97 SV420/627 SWB Vitara
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 Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:12 pm |
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Shit eh. Here I am worring cause I can see chains and stuff flexing under load and I can see the crank rotating backwards.
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:13 pm |
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Stuey wrote: Shit eh. Here I am worring cause I can see chains and stuff flexing under load and I can see the crank rotating backwards.
PULL STUEY , PULL!!!!!
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Stuey

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Joined: Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 621 Location: Perth, WA
Vehicle: 97 SV420/627 SWB Vitara
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 Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:15 pm |
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yup.... just broke my socket. Lucky its lifetime warrenty. What a pig of a pulley
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:21 pm |
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Stuey wrote: yup.... just broke my socket. Lucky its lifetime warrenty. What a pig of a pulley
Tight hay!!  What brand of socket??
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:44 pm |
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remember you gotta do it back up that tight too 
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:56 pm |
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royce wrote: remember you gotta do it back up that tight too 
As we call it FT, F*#king Tight !!! 
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Damo

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Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4661 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:13 pm |
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Loctite FTW
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Stuey

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Joined: Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 621 Location: Perth, WA
Vehicle: 97 SV420/627 SWB Vitara
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 Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:57 am |
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Got it. But what a mission. Big arse breaker bar, with my jack handle slid over that with me hanging on it. Farkin hell. Thanks for the input guys.
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:11 am |
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What are you up to Stuey??
Was the gunk getting to you?? 
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Joe

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Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 49041 Location: Rockingham W.A
Vehicle: JB74
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 Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:34 am |
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Yeah whats going on???? did ya pickup ya bracket from Brian yet??????????
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Stuey

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Joined: Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 621 Location: Perth, WA
Vehicle: 97 SV420/627 SWB Vitara
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 Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:38 am |
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steknig wrote: What are you up to Stuey?? Was the gunk getting to you?? 
Yeah, sorta. But I'm not going as full on as head off stuff we were discussing before. I just wanted to pull off the timing chain cover, check the state of things behind there, clean that up a bit and possibly fit new timing chain kit if need be. As it turns out it was worthwhile as there was handfulls (litterally)of sludge behind there. Tomorrow I'll clean that up, I'll grab a new timing chain kit on monday. Then I'll commence reassembling. I've left the head alone. I still have your words "FLUSH IT" echoing around my head.  But at least getting rid of the shit around this timing chain will be less for the flush to do. Makes sense to clean it off while the sump pan is off.
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:42 am |
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Stuey wrote: steknig wrote: What are you up to Stuey?? Was the gunk getting to you??  Yeah, sorta. But I'm not going as full on as head off stuff we were discussing before. I just wanted to pull off the timing chain cover, check the state of things behind there, clean that up a bit and possibly fit new timing chain kit if need be. As it turns out it was worthwhile as there was handfulls (litterally)of sludge behind there. Tomorrow I'll clean that up, I'll grab a new timing chain kit on monday. Then I'll commence reassembling. I've left the head alone. I still have your words "FLUSH IT" echoing around my head.  But at least getting rid of the shit around this timing chain will be less for the flush to do. Makes sense to clean it off while the sump pan is off.
So I made an impression on you then, Bet that's playing on ya.
You want to strip it & in the back of ye head a whore is saying "FLUSH IT" 
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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 Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:42 am |
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Stuey, I'll fly you over to Adelaide to clean my zook up any day...
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Stuey

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Joined: Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 621 Location: Perth, WA
Vehicle: 97 SV420/627 SWB Vitara
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 Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:43 am |
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joseph wrote: Yeah whats going on???? did ya pickup ya bracket from Brian yet??????????
Yeah, I grabbed the bracket on Friday arvo. Only cost $25 for the powdercoating which was good. So now the push is on to have it all done for the Perth Auszookers meetup. I'll do a bit each night when I can. Diff wont take long to get back in (Ive had that out so many times now I could probably do it with my eyes shut). But I need to clean this engine sludge off first then reinstall the oil pan before putting the diff in. Then i can FINALLY see if your Calmini bracket works. Then radiator, belts, fan etc etc. Another one of those projects I wish I'd never started......
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Stuey

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Joined: Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 621 Location: Perth, WA
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 Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:45 am |
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atari4x4 wrote: Stuey, I'll fly you over to Adelaide to clean my zook up any day...
What are you on about. Your princess is never dirty from what I can tell! 
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Stuey

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Joined: Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 621 Location: Perth, WA
Vehicle: 97 SV420/627 SWB Vitara
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 Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:46 am |
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steknig wrote: Stuey wrote: steknig wrote: What are you up to Stuey?? Was the gunk getting to you??  Yeah, sorta. But I'm not going as full on as head off stuff we were discussing before. I just wanted to pull off the timing chain cover, check the state of things behind there, clean that up a bit and possibly fit new timing chain kit if need be. As it turns out it was worthwhile as there was handfulls (litterally)of sludge behind there. Tomorrow I'll clean that up, I'll grab a new timing chain kit on monday. Then I'll commence reassembling. I've left the head alone. I still have your words "FLUSH IT" echoing around my head.  But at least getting rid of the shit around this timing chain will be less for the flush to do. Makes sense to clean it off while the sump pan is off. So I made an impression on you then, Bet that's playing on ya. You want to strip it & in the back of ye head a whore is saying "FLUSH IT" 
Strangely enough... you've got that exactly right. 
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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Well you may as well keep on going now, you got the sump, timing cover & tappet cover's off, can't be much more hay?
I can't see you being happy till you do, but be prepared for a full rebuild as I'm sure you will find some thing else that is not to your liking in there.
 you go get that glug Stuey!  peaceout
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Stuey

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Joined: Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 621 Location: Perth, WA
Vehicle: 97 SV420/627 SWB Vitara
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 Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:59 am |
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Shaddup.......ok so I'm a little fussy!
Fuck the rebuild..... if the thing blows up after this in goes that V6!
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 3:01 am |
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Stuey wrote: Shaddup.......ok so I'm a little fussy! Fuck the rebuild..... if the thing blows up after this in goes that V6!
That would be FUN to drive, steve is doing a 2lt v6 in a sierra, should be good.
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Scrawny

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Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
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 Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:03 am |
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Just remember that bolt gets done up to the same torque 
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Damo

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Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4661 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:11 pm |
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Stuey wrote: Another one of those projects I wish I'd never started......
If only I had a dollar for every time i'd muttered that to myself in disgust...
Keep the faith Stuey, you'll get there mate!!!
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